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The two grid iron players were Tim Anchors and Pat Kelly. They played in the A Team mainly. I think Anchors played in one first team game against Widnes.
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JOHN THE REDBOY I have been a rovers fan all my life and my grandkids are as well:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47753.jpg |
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| Quote: MrsHallsSausageRolls "The two grid iron players were Tim Anchors and Pat Kelly. They played in the A Team mainly. I think Anchors played in one first team game against Widnes.'"
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| Anchors was a second rower. He was the better player. I can't remember where Kelly played to be honest, must be something about that name that makes you forget it  |
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'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_33809.png |
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Tim Anchors and Pat Kelly both played a single first team game in April 1980, with Kelly starting on the bench. Roger Pugh's history has him down as a backrower too.
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'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_33809.png |
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www.lep.co.uk/sport/football/the ... d-1-138660
A story told by Maurice Bamford about Tim Anchors:
"I had a couple of lads at Huddersfield who were both fearsome characters. There was a big American called Tim Anchors, who came from Kansas City and was a defensive line-backer in Gridiron. "Tim was like a cross between the Incredible Hulk, Big Daddy and the Loch Ness monster. "Anyway, he shared a house with another of our lads, Jimmy Johnson. Between them they bore the facial scars of many a rugby battle – broken noses, scar tissue, and cauliflower ears, and were definitely not a pretty sight. "As they prepared to go out one Friday night, they heard a knock on the front door. "It was the gasman looking for his money, as the collectors were always trying to catch them in. "Jimmy and Timmy were at the bottom of the cellar steps, with the gasman going 'Hello, anybody home?' Suddenly, he opened the door to the cellar and the beam of light from his torch shone on to these big, stooping, scar-faced, Herman Munster-type forwards crouched in the blackness. "A scream of fear erupted from the gasman, who fled for his life away from the two giant ghouls standing there in the inky blackness. "Apparently they had to revive the gasman with smelling salts in the grocer's shop. It's a story that Tim Anchors still tells in Kansas City.
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www.lep.co.uk/sport/football/the ... d-1-138660
A story told by Maurice Bamford about Tim Anchors:
"I had a couple of lads at Huddersfield who were both fearsome characters. There was a big American called Tim Anchors, who came from Kansas City and was a defensive line-backer in Gridiron. "Tim was like a cross between the Incredible Hulk, Big Daddy and the Loch Ness monster. "Anyway, he shared a house with another of our lads, Jimmy Johnson. Between them they bore the facial scars of many a rugby battle – broken noses, scar tissue, and cauliflower ears, and were definitely not a pretty sight. "As they prepared to go out one Friday night, they heard a knock on the front door. "It was the gasman looking for his money, as the collectors were always trying to catch them in. "Jimmy and Timmy were at the bottom of the cellar steps, with the gasman going 'Hello, anybody home?' Suddenly, he opened the door to the cellar and the beam of light from his torch shone on to these big, stooping, scar-faced, Herman Munster-type forwards crouched in the blackness. "A scream of fear erupted from the gasman, who fled for his life away from the two giant ghouls standing there in the inky blackness. "Apparently they had to revive the gasman with smelling salts in the grocer's shop. It's a story that Tim Anchors still tells in Kansas City.
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Rugby Union isn't as big in the states or Canada as it is in other countries that have both codes playing, ie- Italy. I think with good investment and extra media cover, we could see RL in North America really kick off. The Yanks like fast paced, all action sports so RL has a massive advantage over Union. I for one would love it to really kick off their, and hope Toronto make the grade, with hopefully 5-6 true Canadians playing regularly.
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Having followed the Championship road map in 2017 I would prefer to see the RFL encourage 'overseas' investment in existing clubs rather than embark on further expansion (I was going to say folly).
For too long the lower tiers have been neglected with this made even more stark when a director of Dewsbury remarked, 'Today's gate will contribute toward next season'. This cash injection from Rovers away support has been the lifeblood for too many Championship clubs.
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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result: |
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| Quote: Paul_HKR "Having followed the Championship road map in 2017 I would prefer to see the RFL encourage 'overseas' investment in existing clubs rather than embark on further expansion (I was going to say folly).
For too long the lower tiers have been neglected with this made even more stark when a director of Dewsbury remarked, 'Today's gate will contribute toward next season'. This cash injection from Rovers away support has been the lifeblood for too many Championship clubs.'"
The problem is no matter how much you put into the likes of dewsbury etc they'll never really grow because of the size of the towns realistically there's only a couple of clubs that could step up to SL |
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| Quote: fun time frankie "The problem is no matter how much you put into the likes of dewsbury etc they'll never really grow because of the size of the towns realistically there's only a couple of clubs that could step up to SL'"
Thats the thing, a lot of the existing clubs have a ceiling of how many fans they could ever get that is directly influenced by the catchment area and proximity of other clubs. Overseas investment will never be achievable if there is no chance of any return.
Bradford is probably the only viable option for investment in the lower leagues as it has a history of RL, expansion into major cities without any historic links to Rl has proved almost impossible to date, London and Marwans Manchester experiment has shown how difficult that is. |
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JOHN THE REDBOY I have been a rovers fan all my life and my grandkids are as well:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47753.jpg |
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Tim Anchors and Pat Kelly both played a single first team game in April 1980, with Kelly starting on the bench. Roger Pugh's history has him down as a backrower too.'"
April 1980 that's why I do not remember them I was to busy getting ready for may 1980 I wonder why I was may be or black and white pals will know |
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'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_33809.png |
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| Quote: Paul_HKR "Having followed the Championship road map in 2017 I would prefer to see the RFL encourage 'overseas' investment in existing clubs rather than embark on further expansion (I was going to say folly).
For too long the lower tiers have been neglected with this made even more stark when a director of Dewsbury remarked, 'Today's gate will contribute toward next season'. This cash injection from Rovers away support has been the lifeblood for too many Championship clubs.'"
It is difficult to imagine how they might do that though.
Can you imagine them turning around to the people looking to develop clubs in their own cities, such as Perpignan or Toronto, and saying 'we like your ambition and welcome your investment, but we'd prefer you apply it to Dewsbury - here's a map and number for a local B&B.'?
We offered a better prospect in 2013 or whenever it was and our only suitor was Tony Larvin. There's only so much the RFL can do to influence where people choose invest their time and energy. |
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[size=85:3idnpzvq]Cup Winners: 1914, 1982, 2005, 2016, 2017.
Cup Runners-Up: 1908, 1909, 1910, 1922, 1923, 1959, 1960, 1980, 1983, 1985, 2008, 2013.
League Champions: 1920, 1921, 1936, 1956, 1958, 1983.
League Runners-Up: 1957, 1982, 1984, 2006.[/size:3idnpzvq]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_73680.jpg |
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Just been reading about semi-pro US outfit, the Boston 13s. Former Robin, Dave Peterson is in their squad. As is Peter Lupton who played for Hull back in the day.'"
I was in Boston a couple of years ago walking around in an FC polo shirt, and bumped into Robin Peers in a bar (ex-Gateshead player), who recognised my shirt. He's over there coaching the 13's.
They also used to have Kane Bentley in their squad.
There's a decent standard of competition over there now along the East Coast, looking forward to the 2025WC. |
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[size=85:3idnpzvq]Cup Winners: 1914, 1982, 2005, 2016, 2017.
Cup Runners-Up: 1908, 1909, 1910, 1922, 1923, 1959, 1960, 1980, 1983, 1985, 2008, 2013.
League Champions: 1920, 1921, 1936, 1956, 1958, 1983.
League Runners-Up: 1957, 1982, 1984, 2006.[/size:3idnpzvq]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_73680.jpg |
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| Quote: Paul_HKR "Having followed the Championship road map in 2017 I would prefer to see the RFL encourage 'overseas' investment in existing clubs rather than embark on further expansion (I was going to say folly).
For too long the lower tiers have been neglected with this made even more stark when a director of Dewsbury remarked, 'Today's gate will contribute toward next season'. This cash injection from Rovers away support has been the lifeblood for too many Championship clubs.'"
The problem is, Superleague isn't going to grow as a competition or a brand with the inclusion of Dewsbury (to use your example). Dewsbury are probably at their level.
I also take issue with you saying "they've been neglected"? What are you expecting the RFL to do? If a club is reliant upon away fans, rather than attracting new sponsors, investment at board level, new fans etc, then that's their own fault unfortunately.
The RFL aren't in a position to turn down investment from major cities like Toronto or Toulouse. It's not necessarily their strategy, I'm not sure they have a strategy to be honest, but the current league structure means that new clubs can join in L1 and earn their way to SL. |
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I don't think the inclusion of Toulose and particularly Toronto will help grow Superleague as a comp or brand either.What have Catalans actually ''done' for rugby league? A jolly away trip for a few hundred fans?Other than that I can't see any point in them being in the league.
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Didn't roger millward go out to the Chicago bears training camp for a week in the 80s
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