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| The start of the second half summed it up for me. Short kick off, floated ball in the air, both Kelly and Sio jump for it, result..........knock on. Dumb rugby and also the Communication is just not there. The lack of a leader is killing us. Blair is my obvious choice but even he isn't vocal enough. Campese is such a massive loss to us. But, the buck stops at Chester. Would you imagine the furore if this was Sandercock coaching us since the Cup final?! Chester is on borrowed time and the longer Rob and Neil dither about the less time we have to sort it out. I fully expect a 1000 fewer on Friday (and that includes me!).
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| Quote: Hessle rover " I fully expect a 1000 fewer on Friday (and that includes me!).'"
On TV, city at home and on TV and the dross being served up I reckon it'll be well down on numbers
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| Quote: Hessle rover "The start of the second half summed it up for me. Short kick off, floated ball in the air, both Kelly and Sio jump for it, result..........knock on. Dumb rugby and also the Communication is just not there. The lack of a leader is killing us. Blair is my obvious choice but even he isn't vocal enough. Campese is such a massive loss to us. But, the buck stops at Chester. Would you imagine the furore if this was Sandercock coaching us since the Cup final?! Chester is on borrowed time and the longer Rob and Neil dither about the less time we have to sort it out. I fully expect a 1000 fewer on Friday (and that includes me!).'"
I think you may be over optimistic in your estimation of a 1000 fewer supporters been there on Friday, that's if the comments by many around me in the east stand and in the pubs afterwards are anything to go by, plus the fact that its on Sky will also have a bearing on it of course.
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| Quote: Pickering Red "Right now, Rovers are in a dark place. 1 fortunate point from 6, key players injured, less than 17 fit players, poor squad quality, small squad, playing badly without passion or desire. Outlook bleak in the short term. A team led by a coach that most fans now want to see the back of. The same usually loyal and passionate fans, frustrated and subdued throughout, that perhaps justifiably booed the team at the end of a home game following their abject performance against a disciplined but average Wakefield team.
So following that summary, here's a 10 point plan of what I would do against Saints. The first 5 relate to team changes, the second 5 to game plan.
1 - Sio to fullback, he's wasted on the wing
2 - Minns to right centre. Should never have been dropped for the below average Salter anyway. Plus Salter has injured his shoulder again
3 - Blair to interim captain. Horne should be dropped on current form if I had my way, but injuries forcing our hand. He may improve without the captaincy burden
4 - Shaw to start at right wing, if Cockayne unfit. Take over the kicking duties, in the event we score a try
5 - Play Greenwood at loose forward. Horne to interchange with Lawler at hooker
6 - Tempo. Play with greater intensity and speed. Get into the faces of Walsh and Wilkins. Run the ball hard at these 2 as they can't tackle
7 - Support Play. Use support runners. Start doing it automatically
8 - Defence. Stop conceding yards after contact. Don't switch off at the ruck. Maintain line speed in defence
9 - Attacking lines. Attack the ball at speed with straighter or more angled runs. Kick for field position. Kick further into touch on penalties.
10 - Passing. Pass faster, crisper and flatter. We need more passing practice
How much of this do you agree with. Have I missed owt?'"
you have got the right idea it will soon be time for another coach do you fancy the job bring your own team
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| Quote: cravenpark1 "you have got the right idea it will soon be time for another coach do you fancy the job bring your own team'"
Thanks mate. However, Stan's the man for the job. He put forward a belting team for the Wire game. Instead, we fielded a younger side and ended up on the end of a 6 try beating.
I mean. Would you have picked Horne ahead of Sit Down, Waldo? Or Cockayne ahead of Burtons Forearm? I rest my case.
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| The standard of our passing probably merits a thread of its own.
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| Quote: Sit down, Waldo "The standard of our passing probably merits a thread of its own.'"
Especially from dummy half. How many times have we seen the first receiver have to jump up high just to catch the ball hence stopping all momentum.
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| Quote: Seventies red "I think you may be over optimistic in your estimation of a 1000 fewer supporters been there on Friday, that's if the comments by many around me in the east stand and in the pubs afterwards are anything to go by, plus the fact that its on Sky will also have a bearing on it of course.'"
Allegedly, all passholders are counted regardless of actually attending or not. If this is true, then I expect the announced attendance will be 6,831, with the actual being sub-6k.
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| The only change I would make is DITCH the 'restraints' Chester has placed on each player to cover for the absence of Campo and Lunt.
The incident of unforced errors and headless chicken plays are a direct product of these restraints.
To me this is worse than square pegs in round holes.
Rovers squad is full of talented players and to see them stifled by a rigid conservative game plan which Chester has adopted is a difficult pill to swallow. Its obvious the players don't like it and who are not enjoying their rugby; fundamentally, it is an approach that is alien to the players.
To Chester it is probably a rational approach but he has seen it 'busted' twice in pre-season and three times in the league. Surely the penny has dropped? Surely he isn't blind?
Its time to abandon this folly and bring back the champagne approach. I would rather see the team beaten playing to their strengths than being beaten by restraints.
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| Horne is pretty average. He had one good season laet year and now gone backwards. His passes from dummy half were either too high or hit the ground. Horne has become a liability as a playmaker but makes decent ground with ball in hand.
Lawler is doing well so no need to change.
Walker was brilliant, his leg drives set the platform for a lot of our attacks.
I defended Tilse for a little but is doing nothing. His defence is ok but in attack he goes missing apart from taking the ball every third set. A big bloke like him should be chomping at the bit to hammer in the opponents line.
Kelly lookedva little sharper. The occasional chip over was good to see, but not quite sticking at the mo. At least he offered something different.
The two big issues we have are:
1. No goal kicker. We could have easily won with Josh in the side.
2. No game or team management. We look like a bunch of talented individuals.
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| Quote: Hessle rover "Especially from dummy half. How many times have we seen the first receiver have to jump up high just to catch the ball hence stopping all momentum.'"
I noticed this when you were playing us, poor old Kelly must have taken about 4 balls with fingertips down at his feet, and another 4-5 thrown over his head.
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| Quote: Gallanteer "Horne is pretty average. He had one good season laet year and now gone backwards. His passes from dummy half were either too high or hit the ground. Horne has become a liability as a playmaker but makes decent ground with ball in hand.
Lawler is doing well so no need to change.
Walker was brilliant, his leg drives set the platform for a lot of our attacks.
I defended Tilse for a little but is doing nothing. His defence is ok but in attack he goes missing apart from taking the ball every third set. A big bloke like him should be chomping at the bit to hammer in the opponents line.
Kelly lookedva little sharper. The occasional chip over was good to see, but not quite sticking at the mo. At least he offered something different.
The two big issues we have are
Horne is a back up forward at best not a game breaker, Walker is going OK but remember last season he was back up to the starting props, Tilse is what he is a solid front rower again not an impact player (I would not use a quota place on him) Dixon proved last year he is a good kicker & needs to keep trying. Kelly will only get better as long as he has the team around him is going forward. There is no doubt we are a pair of big agressive monster forwards short of a team I suspect the reason is that they are not out there or if they are we can't aford them/they don't want to come here?
Any way on with the season & if people don't turn up thats thier problem! Me I support Rovers & turn up whenever I can, How we are going is of no consequence to me although I prefer a win.
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| Quote: Beverley red "Dixon proved last year he is a good kicker & needs to keep trying.'"
You put that in for a laugh didn't you to see if we were paying attention.
Dixon is responsible for the single worst kick I have ever seen at any level in either code. His attempted kick (I can't even guess what he was trying to achieve) at Cas last year was just unbelievably terrible. If you're referring to his conversion attempts, again, has he kicked a successful one yet? He kicks like Wally Lewis in 1986, without the ball bisecting the sticks.
I'm a well documented fan and defender of Dixon, but a kicker he is not. In the two games when he's had a go for us, he hasn't even practised in the warm up, that's how seriously he's taking the responsibility.
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| Dixon has kicked a fair few conversions for us, he's a bit craig Hall either kicks them all from the touch line or miss them all from in front
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| Quote: Sandro II Terrorista "You put that in for a laugh didn't you to see if we were paying attention.
Dixon is responsible for the single worst kick I have ever seen at any level in either code. His attempted kick (I can't even guess what he was trying to achieve) at Cas last year was just unbelievably terrible. If you're referring to his conversion attempts, again, has he kicked a successful one yet? He kicks like Wally Lewis in 1986, without the ball bisecting the sticks.
I'm a well documented fan and defender of Dixon, but a kicker he is not. In the two games when he's had a go for us, he hasn't even practised in the warm up, that's how seriously he's taking the responsibility.'"
I'm guessing you were in the bar having a Grey Goose every time Dixon took a conversion. Although I don't remember the actual games in which he took those kicks, he did indeed kick a few successful conversions.
He may not be a first choice kicker but certainly worth been the back one up in my opinion.
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