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| Quote: Captain Charisma "Welham unlucky not to be in there too?'"
Very unlucky, but then the less informed were posting Murrell had no chance of an England call up as late as last season.
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| Bertie you cant honestly think Welham should be called up, surely?
If we need to improve anywere for next season now, i think its his position!
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| Quote: very red robin "Bertie you cant honestly think Welham should be called up, surely?
If we need to improve anywere for next season now, i think its his position!'"
Absolutely.., every coach in the league knows Rovers major weakness, we will not seriously challenge until we have more quality in the backs...
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| Quote: General Zod. "Tompkins has to play at full-back IMO and with Widdop in there, there's no real need for Briscoe.
Watts will probably just be in there for the experience at this point.
However, I do feel there is a chance Murrell may actually get a shot because I think Sinfield will be used as a hooker again, Tompkins will be used as a full-back, O'Loughlin may (possibly) be used as a centre and also the number of injuries to half-backs i.e. Eastmond, Pryce, McGuire all out. McNamara may put Scotty in at loose-man and use him as a kicker cos we can't go on playing the Aussies & NZ without having someone in with a decent kicking game...'"
I think Sam will play in the halves as we have so many injuries there currently and that will allow Widdop to play fulback. That might have been different had McGuire and Eastmond been fit.
I can't see Murrell getting in the 17, backrow will probably be Ellis, Burgess and O'Loughlin with Sinfield possibly playing in the halves.
I think Fox will miss out too, Hall and Briscoe will probably start an I agree that Watts is probably there for the experience.
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| Quote: Pudsey Robin "well done to all three. I thought Shaun Briscoe did enough towards the end of the season to justify being called up.'"
Sorry but even as the most loyal of KR fans I can't see any reason to include Briscoe. He's been very inconsistent all year and has cost us quite a few points. If last year was a 9/10 this year he's been 5/10. Very average indeed.
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| Quote: PAUL M "I think Sam will play in the halves as we have so many injuries there currently and that will allow Widdop to play fulback. That might have been different had McGuire and Eastmond been fit.
I can't see Murrell getting in the 17, backrow will probably be Ellis, Burgess and O'Loughlin with Sinfield possibly playing in the halves.
I think Fox will miss out too, Hall and Briscoe will probably start an I agree that Watts is probably there for the experience.'"
Sinfield seems on the wane now though, all he does is complain to the ref (at which he is still world class). Why not put Murrell in for him? He would do as good a job and maybe give the Aussies something a bit different to think about (as he's stood over them having smashed them in the tackle and forced a knock on ![Wink icon_wink.gif](images/smilies//icon_wink.gif) )
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| Quote: PAUL M "Has Murrell ever done that to someone before
Countless times. Remember a special one against Brad Drew when we where playing Shuddersfield it happened in the 1st two minutes of the game. Brad never returned to the field IIRC.
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37721.jpg east hull fc fan wrote: 1 major trophy in 18 years doesn't make us a big club. On the pitch is were it counts and by that theory were no bigger than Sheffield!
tarquin fuego wrote: I wrote this 2 mins before the game finished , you know why Sheldon Maylord ? because I know about RL ! Hoss pot
HOW on earth do you get NILLED at Wembley ?
When your coach isn't a winner at heart and Gentle is not a winner at heart .
We were a pub team
I coached for a long time and we won 95% of games because winning is a mental state driven by a desire to CRUSH an opposition. Did FC look as though they wanted to Crush Wigan and strangle them until they screamed ? NO
RL is a tough tough game and Maylord She-dong you have no clue
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| Quote: Easty "Countless times. Remember a special one against Brad Drew when we where playing Shuddersfield it happened in the 1st two minutes of the game. Brad never returned to the field IIRC.'"
think you will find drew was playing for wakefield. ![Wink icon_wink.gif](images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote: red al "think you will find drew was playing for wakefield.
I did add IIRC ![Smile icon_smile.gif](images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Scott would only be in the side due to his kicking as he can land a ball a yard from the line 99 times out of 100. His defence is erratic though, he makes a lot of tackles but also misses a great deal too, if we miss more than we make against the best international sides then we wont stand a chance. If we take someone just for their kicking game then why leave out Brough? His defence is questionable and he is very light but his kicking game is not far off world class.
Watts certainly isn't ready for this level but he is certainly in need of the experience, only can we afford to take a passenger when our back division are already pretty much passengers???
Widdop has been playing in the halfs hasn't he? So where do England put him? Do we put Tomkins in at full back and throw Widdop in at 6?
I must ask though is Myler really at this standard? His coach saw fit to leave him out of a big game and may well do the same again, if he isn't ready for Wembley or Old Trafford is he ready for a big international tournament? I personally hope Eastmond is fit to play there as he is someone the Aussies will have trouble with.
When Sinfield was used as a hooker I thought we looked much more stable and our go forward was very good, I'd like to see that again for sure and bring Roby on to cause havoc around the ruck.
With all this in mind lets face it we dont really have a chance anyway so why not just play our kids like Wattsy and get them ready for the World Cup??
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| Quote: nick hkr "Scott would only be in the side due to his kicking as he can land a ball a yard from the line 99 times out of 100. His defence is erratic though, he makes a lot of tackles but also misses a great deal too, if we miss more than we make against the best international sides then we wont stand a chance. If we take someone just for their kicking game then why leave out Brough? His defence is questionable and he is very light but his kicking game is not far off world class.
Watts certainly isn't ready for this level but he is certainly in need of the experience, only can we afford to take a passenger when our back division are already pretty much passengers???
Widdop has been playing in the halfs hasn't he? So where do England put him? Do we put Tomkins in at full back and throw Widdop in at 6?
I must ask though is Myler really at this standard? His coach saw fit to leave him out of a big game and may well do the same again, if he isn't ready for Wembley or Old Trafford is he ready for a big international tournament? I personally hope Eastmond is fit to play there as he is someone the Aussies will have trouble with.
When Sinfield was used as a hooker I thought we looked much more stable and our go forward was very good, I'd like to see that again for sure and bring Roby on to cause havoc around the ruck.
With all this in mind lets face it we dont really have a chance anyway so why not just play our kids like Wattsy and get them ready for the World Cup??'"
Scott and Sinfield look fairly similar here... rlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1 The main differences are Sinfields tackle completion rate of 96% (which is pretty amazing) against Scotts of 90%.
Murrell edges the metres per carry (4.6 against 4.1) makes fewer errors and gives away fewer penalties and we all know he is quite handy with the 40/20.
Clearly these stats don't account for other attributes you might want in a rep player, experience, leadership, coolness under pressure etc. but in basic, measureable elements of the game there's not really much to choose between them. Maybe looking at the World Cup it might make sense to bring Murrell in now if a Sinfield type player is deemed a requirement for the national side.
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| Murrell's big asset to a touring party is his versatility. Similar to Lee Smith who will likely go ahead of players who are better wingers or centres or fullbacks because he can play wing and centre and fullback.
Basically I'd consider Murrell as cover for Sinfield and Roby - and probably only take him if one of them was unavailable. Is there a warm up game against Wales or France? F'ing useless as preparation for Aus and Nwz, but it'd be nice for him to get a cap at least, and well-deserved IMO.
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| Quote: Captain Charisma "Welham unlucky not to be in there too?'"
Kris Welham cannot defend. Ive been saying it for ages, last friday showed this.
O'Loughlin won't be a centre either.
Is Liam Watts a Prop or Second row?
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| Quote: NSW "Kris Welham cannot defend. Ive been saying it for ages, last friday showed this.
O'Loughlin won't be a centre either.
Is Liam Watts a Prop or Second row?'"
Liam is a Prop but he's played a fair few games a loose this season due to Murrell having to be moved to Standoff.
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