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| Halatau is gash, as are all the others mentioned aside from Diskin, (who will be the best British , game controlling hooker, in the world of Rugby League once Cunningham retires),
Anybody who doesnt think Rovers need to strengthen at hooker is a simpleton at best.., i love Fish and have done since he destroyed us whilst at Fax , however Ben is not, and never will be, a top class, international standard hooker, i think i could name 20 or 30 better playing on either side of the world (and none of the proposed signings are one of them)..
Rovers have had their best season in 20 + years, since the great side of 85/86, but are still some way off the top sides, (hope i`m proved wrong but i have yet to see Rovers do it in a game that counts at the top level, the play off semi should tell us)
If true Rovers fans really want to be back at the VERY TOP, i am afraid the Fishers, Dobsons, Welhams, aint ever gonna win any medals...they are good players but not top class...how good do Rovers want to be..??
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| Quote: Convict 99 "Halatau is gash, as are all the others mentioned aside from Diskin, (who will be the best British , game controlling hooker, in the world of Rugby League once Cunningham retires),
Anybody who doesnt think Rovers need to strengthen at hooker is a simpleton at best.., i love Fish and have done since he destroyed us whilst at Fax , however Ben is not, and never will be, a top class, international standard hooker, i think i could name 20 or 30 better playing on either side of the world (and none of the proposed signings are one of them)..
Rovers have had their best season in 20 + years, since the great side of 85/86, but are still some way off the top sides, (hope i`m proved wrong but i have yet to see Rovers do it in a game that counts at the top level, the play off semi should tell us)
If true Rovers fans really want to be back at the VERY TOP, i am afraid the Fishers, Dobsons, Welhams, aint ever gonna win any medals...they are good players but not top class...how good do Rovers want to be..??'"
You had me there for a minute until you mentioned Dobson, just answer me this, who is SL top points scorer, who is SL top kicker, who is running away with the Albert Goldthorpe medal, who do nearly every team pick as the man to stop in the Rovers side.
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| simply compare his medals , 1st team NRL matches , state of origin, city v country, or international appearances to any of the other superior quality scrum halves in world RL..
exactly what i mean , just because a guy plays for Rovers doesnt mean he is the best ever, if they all were we would be top of the league and in the CC semi finals would we not....
if we ever want to be the absolute best some Red and white blinkers need to be dispensed with...
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| Quote: Convict 99 "simply compare his medals , 1st team NRL matches , state of origin, city v country, or international appearances to any of the other superior quality scrum halves in world RL..
exactly what i mean , just because a guy plays for Rovers doesnt mean he is the best ever, if they all were we would be top of the league and in the CC semi finals would we not....
if we ever want to be the absolute best some Red and white blinkers need to be dispensed with...'"
If we were to do what you say and clear the team out, Dobson would be one of the last I would get rid of. May not be the best in defence and may have a few off games (who doesn't) but his kicking game is superb and he is generally just a great 7. Agree with you on the Welham part though, good lad but always runs out the line.
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| Quote: Convict 99 "simply compare his medals , 1st team NRL matches , state of origin, city v country, or international appearances to any of the other superior quality scrum halves in world RL..
exactly what i mean , just because a guy plays for Rovers doesnt mean he is the best ever, if they all were we would be top of the league and in the CC semi finals would we not....
if we ever want to be the absolute best some Red and white blinkers need to be dispensed with...'"
You talking crap, He's 22, where is his medals coming from, So your reckoning is that if a player isn't playing in a team that wins one of only two comps, he's crap, and look who kept him out of the team at Canberra, and tell me this how many players get picked for State of Origin games or their country while they play in the UK, nearly all his adult playing career has been at Rovers Wigan or Catalans, your argument is flawed on so many levels, answer me this who is currently the best 7 in SL.
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| No team clearance required, more an addition of quality. I just want to see Rovers win things again within my lifetime, unless Justin can really turn water to wine i dont see this happening with the current crop..
We had a little window in which we had the opportunity to win the Challenge cup, we were not good enough...., with Galea more or less certain to leave , Cooke underused and seeing his contract out , and seemingly no top class hooker coming in, unforutnately i truly believe this is our peak season for now...as much as it grates , and as much as i think they are very poor, i would wager FC reverse roles with us next year..
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| i would think last Saturday proved to anyone with RL knowledge that Berrigan (the australian international hooker and centre ) is a better scrum half than Dobson,
i would also say that anyone who thinks he is better than (and more importantly better value for money than) Sherwin, Eastmond, Long, Briers, Burrow, Brough, Myler , Orr and Robinson is deluded..
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| Quote: Convict 99 "simply compare his medals , 1st team NRL matches , state of origin, city v country, or international appearances to any of the other superior quality scrum halves in world RL..
exactly what i mean , just because a guy plays for Rovers doesnt mean he is the best ever, if they all were we would be top of the league and in the CC semi finals would we not....
if we ever want to be the absolute best some Red and white blinkers need to be dispensed with...'"
First in S/L to reach 200 points, Hull KR 4th in S/L in only the 3rd year....jeez what do you expect, there's plenty of time....WE R HULL KR.
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| Quote: GraftonRed "First in S/L to reach 200 points, Hull KR 4th in S/L in only the 3rd year....jeez what do you expect, there's plenty of time....WE R HULL KR.'"
well said, i can't understand the negativity when we are still moving onwards and upwards
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| Quote: Convict 99 "I just want to see Rovers win things again within my lifetime, unless Justin can really turn water to wine'"
He's not jesus...but not far off
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| Quote: Convict 99 "No team clearance required, more an addition of quality. I just want to see Rovers win things again within my lifetime, unless Justin can really turn water to wine i dont see this happening with the current crop..
We had a little window in which we had the opportunity to win the Challenge cup, we were not good enough...., with Galea more or less certain to leave , Cooke underused and seeing his contract out , and seemingly no top class hooker coming in, unforutnately i truly believe this is our peak season for now...as much as it grates , and as much as i think they are very poor, i would wager FC reverse roles with us next year..'"
Just goes to show what you really know.
Quote: Convict 99 "Convict99 wroteRovers problems lie much deeper and to suggest otherwise is glossing over some pretty inept displays this year.......Wakefield twice, Quins away, Wire twice, Huddersfield twice, Saints i can excuse.......a reasonable early season, two derby victories, and one half decent home win in the cup doesnt offer much hope for the next two or three seasons...
I know progression takes time but Rovers are in reverse at the moment....
And lets remember Catalan are in only their third year in SL, got to the Challenge Cup final in their second and are real live SL challengers in season three....spending the same as Rovers...can anyone really , really see Rovers matching that progression next year...
Only Hulls terrible league season and the aforementioned derbies are Rovers saving grace this year...
On paper the squad is very capable , so where does the problem lie....
Perhaps Justin isnt as good as he thinks he is........or perhaps he just isnt addressing some issues that really need to be addressed because he is never wrong......'"
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| Quote: sandy "eusa_clap.gif well said, i can't understand the negativity when we are still moving onwards and upwards
Thats all we want...with all the hard work from the board down. The players are a unit, they are hungry for success just as we are, the comments made about the half time talk cement this hunger at Hull KR, wonder what the dressing room was like at the KC at half time on friday....trophies will come in time.
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| I agree, but certain peoples comments make me wonder who they support.
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| Quote: phil webbo "I agree, but certain peoples comments make me wonder who they support.'"
Couldn't agree more.....whats this kid on.....where's he been for the last 15 yrs? Obviously not C/P
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| Quote: Convict 99 "i would think last Saturday proved to anyone with RL knowledge that Berrigan (the australian international hooker and centre ) is a better scrum half than Dobson, '"
Your deluded pal!!!!
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