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Quote: Mild Rover "Couple of days to evict someone, then we'll start task 2. I've pm'd the judges the menus, so hopefully we'll have a result soonish.

While we wait... WiH - what if a word which originally meant one thing comes, through common usage, to mean something else? I'm not sure an Academie Francaisesque attitude adequately acknowledges the way in which language evolves.'"

Like "bog", you mean? Quite acceptable in this case.

But "greens", for example, will only ever be different shades of green. It will never be acceptable to refer to vegetables as "greens", even if they're green.

Just as "glasses" will only ever be vessels you drink out of, or magnifying instruments for the opera or the countryside but can never be spectacles.

Looking glass, however, originally referred to a hand held polished surface which showed the holder a reflection of their image, but has now come to mean any piece of glass - huge or tiny, with a silvered reflective back. So that's evolved and now means something different (You must never, of course, refer to a "mirror".)

One of the most hideous examples is the misuse of the word "home". You can be "at home", or "going home" as "home" is an abstract noun. But you can only build a house, or buy a flat (not apartment!). Most sadly, "home" has become, by common usage, a word used incorrectly to describe the physical building in which you live. "I've bought a new couch for my home". Quite beyond the pale. This is why you may visit an "historic house" or go to stay in a "country house" but a "stately home" does not exist.

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How silly would we feel if beaten by a menu that included a ketchup doused sausage roll?'"

I am very worried by the thought that McLaran Field might be partial to that vanilla slice. icon_neutral.gif

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Quote: Mild Rover "Rovette heard that from her niece a couple of years ago - I didn't know if it had become fixed and/or gone beyond slang. Dessert as pudding, seems to be a widely accepted definition now.

Good team captain though, for all her hang-ups and idiosyncrasies. Wormy was a very good captain this week, she has set the bar, a lot of pressure now for the rest of the team when their turn comes.
I always thought Wormy was an English teacher if I am honest, she certainly has a passion for the English language and clearly knows her stuff.

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Quote: Mild Rover "Bioscience.
I work in a Genetics Department.'"

Ahh...

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Quote: Marfa Manu "Wormy was a very good captain this week, she has set the bar, a lot of pressure now for the rest of the team when their turn comes.
I always thought Wormy was an English teacher if I am honest, she certainly has a passion for the English language and clearly knows her stuff.'"

Shucks icon_surprised.gifops: . Did nothing but shout and demand ideas but didn't come up with many good ones myself. My poor little pig, for example. dum-dum was a bit of a hero, though.

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I call my glasses/specatcles "bins". And my brother calls contact lenses "Duncans"; Duncan McKenzies -> lenses.

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Quote: Mild Rover "Bioscience.
I work in a Genetics Department.'"

Crikey you must be mad, I am presently studying for my anatomy & physiology exam in May, it is a nightmare icon_sad.gif

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I always thought Wormy was an English teacher if I am honest.'"


She is.


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Quote: Mild Rover "The only 'smash it' I've come across is the one that cost Richard Keys his job. 'Gay' is an obvious example. Evolution doesn't care if it is condoned. The dinosaurs never called cake and custard 'dessert' - but where are they now?'"

"Gay" is a good one. I think that is acceptable now, but only in addition to the traditional meanings.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "I call my glasses/specatcles "bins". And my brother calls contact lenses "Duncans"; Duncan McKenzies -> lenses.'"

My hubby is shocking for that...the other week he said he had the Ertha's, I asked what that was he said the Ertha Kitts then went to the toilet icon_rolleyes.gif icon_lol.gif

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Oh! Cockney Rhyming and other slang is always OK! It's when people use substitute words to replace the originals and actually [imean[/i them that it goes a bit wrong. It's really just people trying to be pretentious during the 19th and 20th centuries and attempting to "distance" themselves from the lower classes by using their "new, superior" language. Unfortunately for them, the Upper classes never bought into it, were confident enough in themselves to carry on with the traditional lingo and now use the "new" language as the yardstick to measure the distance between them and the upstarts.

So, rather than bringing them closer to the aristocrats, the "new" English merely served to define the new middle class. The upper classes still use language as the main indicator of which class you are. Brilliantly - the working classes, whom the "middles" wanted to leave behind, now share the majority of their vocabulary with the aristos. That's why I'm fiercely protective of my working class words - I despise social climbing and snobbery.

Middle-middles really get on my threepenny bits, and steam up my bins.

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Quote: WormInHand "Middle-middles really get on my threepenny bits, and steam up my bins.'"

Ah-HA!
That is you in the picture.

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