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| Quote: Hessle rover "Well I’m glad other people deem this worthy of conversation unlike a poster on another thread.
Regardless of what the rent is at the shop, even if it is in 5 figures,the loss of revenue will be well over this said amount......small time thinking by the club.
Apart from game day, that would be it from me regarding visiting the club shop, as well as other rovers fans I’ve spoken to.
I’m totally pi$$ed off by the club over this descision.'"
How do you know how much revenue is taken through the shop if it was making as much as you think then why would the club shut it it doesn't make sense
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| Quote: fun time frankie "How do you know how much revenue is taken through the shop if it was making as much as you think then why would the club shut it it doesn't make sense'"
All I know is club merchandise sales was at record levels last year, even greater than our year at Wembley. This gamble by moving the shop is in my opinion a massive step backwards.
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| The overheads of town centre rent and staff would be considerable but I agree it is a necessary expense.but in old days it was the holderness road shop (now Polski)or buy at the ground.Savings made but possibly not looking at bigger picture.?
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| I totally agree, I don’t go into town that much, but parking in Albion St Carpark it’s easy just to pop in for a browse, as you head into town which usually means a purchase. You would hope they have really thought this through, and as has been said rent and rates won’t be cheap, but it’s the fact we have a presence in the town centre where people can go
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| Quote: Rural Robin "I totally agree, I don’t go into town that much, but parking in Albion St Carpark it’s easy just to pop in for a browse, as you head into town which usually means a purchase. You would hope they have really thought this through, and as has been said rent and rates won’t be cheap, but it’s the fact we have a presence in the town centre where people can go'"
Do you remember the outcry when the Holderness Road shop closed and the one in town opened?
The only things that don’t change are our supporters who like a good moan.
I know we all contribute to the club in our own way but those that contribute the most have the biggest shout.
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| I appreciate your sentiments Keith, and yes everybody likes a good moan. My main point really is that the bulk of my and probably many other people’s purchases are made in the closed season in the run up to Christmas, and it’s convenient that the shop is in the centre. It gives us a focal point, but in reality it wouldn’t be a massive issue to go to CP, it’s just the passing trade loss set against the running costs of the town centre store that will be the clubs driver
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| Exactly my sentiments. I want Rovers to kick on with their brand instead of hiding behind a stadium in the middle of nowhere. Just because it saves a few quid.
Would F.c ever do this? I’d doubt they would.
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| Quote: Hessle rover "Exactly my sentiments. I want Rovers to kick on with their brand instead of hiding behind a stadium in the middle of nowhere. Just because it saves a few quid.
Would F.c ever do this? I’d doubt they would.'"
I guess it’s not your few quid being saved! Maybe, assuming the reason is as you say, you could get in touch with the club and say you will pay the difference to enable the shop to stay open.
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| Quote: Keiththered "I guess it’s not your few quid being saved! Maybe, assuming the reason is as you say, you could get in touch with the club and say you will pay the difference to enable the shop to stay open.'"
I support them as much as I can, when they move, it won’t be as much as it would having a shop in the city . That’s a lot of people’s point of view on here. But smart comments like yours trying to offer “debate” just smack of bellendry from someone who really hasn’t a clue on matters of commerce.
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| Quote: Hessle rover "I support them as much as I can, when they move, it won’t be as much as it would having a shop in the city Centre. That’s a lot of people’s point of view on here. But smart booty comments like yours trying to offer “debate” just smack of bellendry from someone who really hasn’t a clue on matters of commerce.'"
I have no problem with your thoughts about leaving the city centre. It’s your assumption that the club would make the decision just to save a few quid. The few on here who agree with you are not necessarily representative of supporters in general.
What in my post gave you the impression I know nothing about commerce? You continue to make assumptions without any supporting evidence.
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| What would be the reason in leaving then Keith?. I’d love to know your point of view on it.
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| Quote: Hessle rover "What would be the reason in leaving then Keith?. I’d love to know your point of view on it.'"
I don’t know any more than you. Save a lot of money? End of lease? Moving to better premises? Commercial decision based on expected savings being greater than possible reduced profit?
I have no information about how or why the decision was made but based on the knowledge that our club is run by successful businessmen I suspect it was for a more substantial reason than saving a few quid. I do not even know what you consider to be a few quid.
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| Quote: Hessle rover "What would be the reason in leaving then Keith?. I’d love to know your point of view on it.'"
It has to be that they think it’ll increase profit. Maybe some of that can be reinvested in more efficient marketing methods than having a city centre retail presence. I dunno.
A pop-up around the launches of season passes and shirts should mitigate a lot of the lost revenue. I would guess that there are some pretty quiet months in that shop outside of those times. But that’s all we can do - guess.
I’m not assuming that the they always make what turn out to be great decisions, but i’m not going to go the other way either.
As for Hull, do they have a shop at the KCOM? If not, then I doubt Allam would be keen to help set it up. But if they could and they did a cost-benefit that showed it was a better option, i’m sure they would.
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| Quote: Keiththered "I don’t know any more than you. Save a lot of money? End of lease? Moving to better premises? Commercial decision based on expected savings being greater than possible reduced profit?
I have no information about how or why the decision was made but based on the knowledge that our club is run by successful businessmen I suspect it was for a more substantial reason than saving a few quid. I do not even know what you consider to be a few quid.'"
So a few quid, or a lot? It all comes down to cost of rent/wages (of which I’d presume most being on a minimum to a living wage baring the manager) and the value of a city centre shop. I’m not privy to the figures but with season passes, shirt sales and merchandise sales, the club should be reaching well over a million pounds per annum gross. I’d love to know the net Profit on merchandise but non of us will ever know. So a few quid or a lot would depend on what you’d lose by not having a prime location. It would be interesting to know footfall figures our shop currently gets, something we all could caragorically say would never happen at a stadium shop.
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| Quote: Hessle rover "So a few quid, or a lot? It all comes down to cost of rent/wages (of which I’d presume most being on a minimum to a living wage baring the manager) and the value of a city centre shop. I’m not privy to the figures but with season passes, shirt sales and merchandise sales, the club should be reaching well over a million pounds per annum gross. I’d love to know the net Profit on merchandise but non of us will ever know. So a few quid or a lot would depend on what you’d lose by not having a prime location. It would be interesting to know footfall figures our shop currently gets, something we all could caragorically say would never happen at a stadium shop.'"
You don’t know about rent/wages. I don’t know either. You could find out by looking at the clubs accounts on line. All organisations have to file their accounts. Not sure which will be the club’s last accounts available.
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