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[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x] [quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.     Regards,   Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg



Quote: Burtons Forearm "As for Sheldon's idea that he was racist. Really. A very simple interpretation of a very complicated world of American race politics in which he grew up.
He helped and gave to people of all races. A remarkable man.'"


What utter ing none sense. You're excusing his disgusting behaviour towards Fraiser and his family.

His quotes are there to see and read.

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Quote: Sheldon "What utter loving none sense. You're excusing his disgusting behaviour towards Fraiser and his family.

His quotes are there to see and read.'"

Not racist though we're they. Calling him gorilla and an Uncle Tom is not racist.
Frazier seemed to have resolved the issue hence they toured the world together on various events.

Like I say don't go for the simplistic view of history. Ali had many faults ( as we all do) racism wasn't one of them.

He'd have boxed Tyson's ears off. Tyson could only fight going forward and never fought anyone of any quality. He'd have a punchers chance against Ali nothing more. To mentally fragile too. Liston and Foreman were harder punchers Ali made fools of them. Holmes troubled him at 40. Ali was banned from age 26 to 29. Most athletes peak years. He could beat any type of fighter.
As soon as anyone pushed Tyson's and got him going backwards he flailed like a fish on a beach. Holyfield destroyed him twice. There's not one heavy weight fighter post Ali that would have got close to him.

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Quote: Burtons Forearm "Not racist though we're they. Calling him gorilla and an Uncle Tom is not racist.
Frazier seemed to have resolved the issue hence they toured the world together on various events.

Like I say don't go for the simplistic view of history. Ali had many faults ( as we all do) racism wasn't one of them.

He'd have boxed Tyson's ears off. Tyson could only fight going forward and never fought anyone of any quality. He'd have a punchers chance against Ali nothing more. To mentally fragile too. Liston and Foreman were harder punchers Ali made fools of them. Holmes troubled him at 40. Ali was banned from age 26 to 29. Most athletes peak years. He could beat any type of fighter.
As soon as anyone pushed Tyson's and got him going backwards he flailed like a fish on a beach. Holyfield destroyed him twice. There's not one heavy weight fighter post Ali that would have got close to him.'"

Agree ali at his peak was virtually unhittable,the exception being cooper who he felt wasn't a threat,every other fighter prior to his ban who he felt was a threat hardly hit him at all.Tyson would have got nowhere near him IMO,foreman was twice the bully tyson was and look what happened to him,yet 20 years later foreman was world champ again which says it all.
As regards sheldon,most posters know what he says is always correct,he'll tell you that himself. icon_wink.gif

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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



Quote: Burtons Forearm "Not racist though we're they. Calling him gorilla and an Uncle Tom is not racist.
Frazier seemed to have resolved the issue hence they toured the world together on various events.

Like I say don't go for the simplistic view of history. Ali had many faults ( as we all do) racism wasn't one of them.

He'd have boxed Tyson's ears off. Tyson could only fight going forward and never fought anyone of any quality. He'd have a punchers chance against Ali nothing more. To mentally fragile too. Liston and Foreman were harder punchers Ali made fools of them. Holmes troubled him at 40. Ali was banned from age 26 to 29. Most athletes peak years. He could beat any type of fighter.
As soon as anyone pushed Tyson's and got him going backwards he flailed like a fish on a beach. Holyfield destroyed him twice. There's not one heavy weight fighter post Ali that would have got close to him.'"

Tyson destroyed Holmes he never got near him and Tyson lost a few of his best years by been in prison and if Tyson Fury went around calling black boxers gorillas I'm certain he would be called racist

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqiWFLsgVi4

Yeah he was pretty racist. Imagine someone like Donald Trump saying something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqiWFLsgVi4

Yeah he was pretty racist. Imagine someone like Donald Trump saying something like this?


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Quote: TwistTheMellonMan "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v


Jesus. We need an understanding of racism don't we.
Ali spouted some serious nonsense from the racist Nation of Islam doctrines and followed their nonsense for a while. Him racist. His deeds and speeches suggest otherwise.
At no point does he say any other race is worse than an other. He helped and supported people of all races.
If Ali was seen with anything other than a black woman in Kentucky he would have been killed. A local boy when he was a kid was lynched for whistling at a white woman and his two murderers acquitted.
Here's a man raised in an environment where this was not allowed and the consequences fatal. At no point does he put one race over another. Parkinson understands him and the place it comes from.
Not the same place as Trump. Not the same person.

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[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x] [quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.     Regards,   Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg



Quote: Burtons Forearm "Not racist though we're they. Calling him gorilla an Uncle Tom is not racist.
Frazier seemed to have resolved the issue hence they toured the world together on various events.

Like I say don't go for the simplistic view of history. Ali had many faults ( as we all do) racism wasn't one of them.

He'd have boxed Tyson's ears off. Tyson could only fight going forward and never fought anyone of any quality. He'd have a punchers chance against Ali nothing more. To mentally fragile too. Liston and Foreman were harder punchers Ali made fools of them. Holmes troubled him at 40. Ali was banned from age 26 to 29. Most athletes peak years. He could beat any type of fighter.
As soon as anyone pushed Tyson's and got him going backwards he flailed like a fish on a beach. Holyfield destroyed him twice. There's not one heavy weight fighter post Ali that would have got close to him.'"


Calling him a gorilla wasn't racist? Are you serious?

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[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x] [quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.     Regards,   Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg



Quote: Burtons Forearm "Jesus. We need an understanding of racism don't we.
Ali spouted some serious nonsense from the racist Nation of Islam doctrines and followed their nonsense for a while. Him racist. His deeds and speeches suggest otherwise.
At no point does he say any other race is worse than an other. He helped and supported people of all races.
If Ali was seen with anything other than a black woman in Kentucky he would have been killed. A local boy when he was a kid was lynched for whistling at a white woman and his two murderers acquitted.
Here's a man raised in an environment where this was not allowed and the consequences fatal. At no point does he put one race over another. Parkinson understands him and the place it comes from.
Not the same place as Trump. Not the same person.'"


Oh you are serious.....

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Quote: Sheldon "Oh you are serious.....'"

Yes very.

Liston...the bear

Foreman.....the mummy

Frazier....the gorilla

Cooper...the bum

Etc etc etc. Names for all opponents. Opponents of all races. Racism would have suggested more racial references for each opponent. Jesus he wasn't Bernard Manning or Jim Davidson.

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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



Quote: Burtons Forearm "Yes very.

Liston...the bear

Foreman.....the mummy

Frazier....the gorilla

Cooper...the bum

Etc etc etc. Names for all opponents. Opponents of all races. Racism would have suggested more racial references for each opponent. Jesus he wasn't Bernard Manning or Jim Davidson.'"

You forgot Uncle Tom the most insulting thing a black man can say to another black man

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You can't claim racism is fine at some points and not others the fact that he said multi racial couples were an abomination has been quietly sweeped under the rug. His idea that all white people should all be sorry and be held accountable for the crimes of our ancestors is dangerous and we will never advance as a species if we keep flogging that dead horse.

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[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x] [quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.     Regards,   Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg



Quote: Burtons Forearm "Yes very.

Liston...the bear

Foreman.....the mummy

Frazier....the gorilla

Cooper...the bum

Etc etc etc. Names for all opponents. Opponents of all races. Racism would have suggested more racial references for each opponent. Jesus he wasn't Bernard Manning or Jim Davidson.'"


Wow. You're ignoring the context to fit in with your argument.

I hope you're not a Cosby show fan, I'm not going to like your defence of him when he dies.

Keep up the good fight, I bid you farewell.

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Quote: TwistTheMellonMan "You can't claim racism is fine at some points and not others the fact that he said multi racial couples were an abomination has been quietly sweeped under the rug. His idea that all white people should all be sorry and be held accountable for the crimes of our ancestors is dangerous and we will never advance as a species if we keep flogging that dead horse.'"

Flogging that dead horse.....

Ok so the forced enslavement and murder of MILLIONS the consequences of which he still suffered being raised in segregated Kentucky he should have just forgotten.....move on....nothing to see.....Hardly the work of 'ancestors ´ when he couldn't even vote, attend school etc.
Of course you would have just let it go being a better human being than him.
He won an Olympic gold medal...at boxing...not rhythmic gymnastics..risking life for that country and his own cities citizens wouldn't serve him a hotdog because of his race.
Mixed race couples were an abomination where he was raised. The couples often killed.

He gave away millions to people of all races and creeds...millions.

Uncle Tom isn't a racist slur. It means your a conspirator with the white oppressor not an inferior race....

Here's a racist...
'I'm strongly in favour of the use of poisonous gas on uncivilized tribe's. Why is it wrong for a British Artillery man to fire a shell that would make said native sneeze'.

This racist then complained of the sqeamishness of his cabinet colleagues when they stopped him gassing Indians and Arabs.

Sir Winston Churchill...soon to adorn our 5 pound note and regularly voted as one of the greatest Britons. Looking for racists look closer to home.

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It's a shame that a thread started to allow some of us to mark our respects to a sporting great had been hijacked in such a way.

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Churchill was a c@nt

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