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| Forget the rights and wrongs of it, will what Hudgell has said make any difference? No. Does it stir up ill feeling? Yes. Will it help Rovers achieve top eight status having an unsettled player at the club? Probably not.
So what really did he think he was achieving?
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "The problem with that is, if he hadn't mentioned Hull FC and our coach he would have gotten away with that, there was no need to mention Hull FC, was there?
A simple 'he's told the players he's signed elsewhere, yet his agent says he hasn't. What's the truth?' Would have sufficed. Making Paea and his agent announce something.
He's fallen into the trap, which he often does of letting his mouth run away from him when the name Hull FC is mentioned, it's pitiful really.'" Unless he felt that if silly games were being played lets have it all in the open.
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| Quote: Irregular Hoops "Can't remember grudgell and rovers fans making this fuss when they signed S.Briscoe from Hull before the end of that particular season.'" Can you pop on a link to his agent telling fibs?
If not then you clearly either missed the point or are just ignoring it.
Which one is it?
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Forget the rights and wrongs of it, will what Hudgell has said make any difference? No. Does it stir up ill feeling? Yes. Will it help Rovers achieve top eight status having an unsettled player at the club? Probably not.
So what really did he think he was achieving?'"
Neil set the record straight. He obviously felt the need to do this because of the rubbish Mather had said.
If Mather hadn't of been so disrespectful about Rovers or god forbid even had the decency to thank Rovers for helping Mickey become a much better player than when we signed him,(which he has-remember how you fc fans all laughed and rubbished him and Mika???) Then Neil would not have said a word.
And yes it has made a difference because we all now know the truth.
BTW You do not have a clue how Mickey will feel or even if he feels unsettled, He might prefer it to be out in the open for all we know.
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| The problem obviously is with what the agent has said about not being in a rush to sign for any S/L clubs as he really wants to go back to Aussie, whilst Paeas already told NH 2 weeks earlier that hes off to Hull.
As long as he keeps running hard then ill still cheer him on.
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| Quote: bishops finger "The problem obviously is with what the agent has said about not being in a rush to sign for any S/L clubs as he really wants to go back to Aussie, whilst Paeas already told NH 2 weeks earlier that hes off to Hull.
As long as he keeps running hard then ill still cheer him on.'"
All agents say the same to boost their clients contract potential. The problem with a lot of rovers fans appears to be that you believe you are the greatest club on earth, and how dare anyone want to leave.
Boo hoo. You have taken a fair few FC players, and will again on the future I am sure. Hudgell has no excuse for doing what he did, it is nothing better than unprofressional.
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| Quote: hull smallears "All agents say the same to boost their clients contract potential. The problem with a lot of rovers fans appears to be that you believe you are the greatest club on earth, and how dare anyone want to leave.
Boo hoo. You have taken a fair few FC players, and will again on the future I am sure. Hudgell has no excuse for doing what he did, it is nothing better than unprofressional.'"
My god youve gone from arrogance to denial it is not rovers that are arrogant. Hull fc and their fanbase seem to have arrogance that you as a club are better than everyone else. It is hull that have belittled hull kr at every opportunity. It is hull fc fans that believe they are better than every one else in super league. That you are gods gifts to super league and all clubs should all kneel before hull fc and its devine right in its belief that you are gods of rugby league. It is the case that there is only one club that acts like the big I am!. And that club is hull fc!
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| Quote: another fine mess "My god youve gone from arrogance to denial it is not rovers that are arrogant. Hull fc and their fanbase seem to have arrogance that you as a club are better than everyone else. It is hull that have belittled hull kr at every opportunity. It is hull fc fans that believe they are better than every one else in super league. That you are gods gifts to super league and all clubs should all kneel before hull fc and its devine right in its belief that you are gods of rugby league. It is the case that there is only one club that acts like the big I am!. And that club is hull fc!'"
In what way do we do that? By keeping quiet about potential signings until we want to announce them? Or by signing players from Rovers and bringing them to our sy stadium and fantastic training facilities?
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| Quote: another fine mess "My god youve gone from arrogance to denial it is not rovers that are arrogant. Hull fc and their fanbase seem to have arrogance that you as a club are better than everyone else. It is hull that have belittled hull kr at every opportunity. It is hull fc fans that believe they are better than every one else in super league. That you are gods gifts to super league and all clubs should all kneel before hull fc and its devine right in its belief that you are gods of rugby league. It is the case that there is only one club that acts like the big I am!. And that club is hull fc!'"
Ok explain where I have been arrogant?
Secondly, what am I in denial of?
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| Quote: another fine mess "My god youve gone from arrogance to denial it is not rovers that are arrogant. Hull fc and their fanbase seem to have arrogance that you as a club are better than everyone else. It is hull that have belittled hull kr at every opportunity. It is hull fc fans that believe they are better than every one else in super league. That you are gods gifts to super league and all clubs should all kneel before hull fc and its devine right in its belief that you are gods of rugby league. It is the case that there is only one club that acts like the big I am!. And that club is hull fc!'"
Best dummy spit post I've read in ages!
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| Quote: Beverley red "What a load of drivell being trotted out on here, Unless my command of English has gone Hudgel was slating the agent for basicly lying (not keeping information quiet) If he has signed as the owner of KR Hudgel has the right to know what the person He employs is doing untill the last day of his contract, what the people at FC think is irelevent untill they are paying him. The only thing I think is wrong is that everything is played out in public on all sides.'"
Hugell is not been slated for lying, just everything else. Including been am amature businessman who has just embarrassed his club and its fans and made life very difficult for his employees, one in particular for no gain whats so ever. It won't help the way you play, it won't help your salary cap, it won't help your league position, it won't help other perception of Hull KR and how it is run.
Further, despite your illusion to the opposite, nobody other than Hugell has made a public statement. Your statement regarding this being played out in "public on all sides" is in fact therefore clearly false.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Forget the rights and wrongs of it, '"
Sure. So was NH's response a miscalculation?
Quote: east hull FC fan "will what Hudgell has said make any difference? No.'"
No, you're right it won't much. It just brings to a head a little bit sooner - that is at least arguably better than it bleeding on. Like removing a sticking plaster, you're better just gritting your teeth and doing with one sharp pull. I think most Rovers fans would think it best that he challenged Mather's version, assuming it was innaccurate as well as negative. Some of the points NH makes toward the end of the article in the HDM, imo, dilute rather than add to his argument, and if I was his press advisor, I'd have suggested limiting to the more equanimous opening part. Bit of a cold fish me, though.
I think Mickey himself realised it wasn't now going to hold to anywhere near his 'return to Australia to consider his options', and saying he wanted it 'sorted in the next couple' of weeks represented his efforts to save a bit of face, while managing the situation his agent had created in a realistic way. Could NH have called on Paea to set the record straight, privately. Yes, IMO. Perhaps he did, and in fairness his quotes on the Monday are way more positive and appropriate than Mather's - but he repeats the story about not having agreed a deal and wanting to go to the NRL. Forgetting about the rights and wrongs of it, was it worth us maybe looking daft through silent complicity, in the hope of of maybe making Mickey's ride slightly and briefly easier? As you say, not much difference either way.
Quote: east hull FC fan "Does it stir up ill feeling? Yes.'"
As a Hull fan put on a mock up of Mickey in a Hull shirt - haters be hating. Our gormers will blame Mickey's supposed 'treachery', yours will blame Neil's 'bitterness'. Any real ill feeling anybody has is really their own problem, and reflects on them. It is an extremely minor PR skirmish at the end of the day and anybody who takes it very seriously, really shouldn't. Mickey's just making the best living he can, Neil's just hosing away the turd his agent left on our doorstep.
Quote: east hull FC fan "Will it help Rovers achieve top eight status having an unsettled player at the club? Probably not.'"
That was going to happen anyway. Only 3 home fixtures left helps. It maybe could have been kept under wraps until after Salford at very best - but a fair few Hull fans were shouting the news out there, so equally, maybe not.
If he gives his all in the next couple of away games, by the time of the Salford game it'll hopefully have mostly blown over.
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| I've made my peace with him in the queue at passport control, I could see he was relieved.
Joking aside, clearly a nice lad just doing what's best for him.
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| Quote: hull smallears "All agents say the same to boost their clients contract potential. The problem with a lot of rovers fans appears to be that you believe you are the greatest club on earth, and how dare anyone want to leave.
Boo hoo. You have taken a fair few FC players, and will again on the future I am sure. Hudgell has no excuse for doing what he did, it is nothing better than unprofressional.'" All agents lie to save a player getting some slack and also slag off their current employers?
Give us some examples then?
P.S if he has already signed how in the blue hell can he get a boost over contractual potential?
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| I shouldn't think too many folk are laying awake at night, worrying about the MP position. This kind of thing happens, people get over it, life goes on. Neil's had his say, so lets all be friends shall we?
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