Not quite 13, but regardless , all those sheep won precisely zilch, and look at Wigans win ratio with O'Loughlin and without, fashion never lasts long and it is always those who swim against the tide who are at the front of things...

Don't get me wrong I'd love to see the old fashioned ball playing loose forward back it just seems it's been fazed out

My issue is not whether you play a prop or old fashioned ball playing loose forward at 13, it is the fact that people want to play Burns in that role. A role he has never played in his professional career either as a ball playing LF or as an extra prop. That is why I said we may as well put Weyman at fullback if we are to put Burns there.

I rest my case about Burns, all of you who said he should play were proved wrong, he wasnt ready, he's average at best. Nothing he tried today came off.

At least he did try a few things

How is he ever going to get match fit if he doesn't play?

Gateshead

preferably till his contract is up.

Not a fan then?

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is it that obvious? ??

2 good games last season and some think he's top drawer

I thought burns was the real deal? According to zod he's the best overseas half in SL

so based on one game, his first of the season, after a long lay off and operation, against a very well drilled leeds side, he's average at best?? Maybe on the day he was, but which players weren't on that showing.

glad your not picking the team.....