Story of our season to a tee.

With our only real attacking option in Dobbo wer relying on he forwards battring down the middle to get into there half so we can bring dobbo into the game, the trouble is our forwards arnt big enough to get us there which is leading to a poor 5th tackle play. Teams are starting there sets on the half way line putting us on the back foot straight away.

When did Wigan fans get so bitter and obsessed about Wire? Isn't hating Saints enough?

I'd agree with that.

The biggest surprise for me was how poor the kicking game was. Apart from the kick for Welham's try just about every other was pants and allowed Wire to immediately pressure the Rovers defence. I realise that Dobson was often kicking from poor field possession, but given his reputation as a kicker he was well off form.

Not once did Dobson have a blocker though, i agree with you but surley you need to protect your kicker to give him time.

I don't think its down to the forwards. I think our pack is decent and can mix it with the best.



He's never been that great. And therein lies the problem; it's not the forwards that fail to gain field position, it's our kicking game.

Dobson's a good halfback and a top goal kicker, but his general kicking is vastly overrated IMO. Also rarely gets any distance on kicks for touch or dropouts either.

Also most sides have a fullback with ball handling skills as a 3rd outlet but Briscoe is very poor in this regard and cant help Dobson out either.

They can i agree but not after defending set after set on there own line, this is what grinding us down.

you have issues,seen a good doctor lately?

Who?

you know funnily enough i thought dobson did pretty well last night with some outlet kicks. We did similar to salford last week with containing them within pretty much their own thirty and returning the ball with some real vigour so they weren't making much ground at all, with rushed kicks as well.

Last night dobson did a reasonable job of getting rid and finding the floor between the 'two fullbacks' system that we're using at the moment, don't know if you picked up on that from last night's game but we've been doing that for most of this year and is a bit of a bugger to kick against.

i thought our lads peformed well considering that wire appeared to have a mole working with them to that bin mole SMITH of course. cant bring the game back but a few of the super league refs really do need a check up from the neck up bad decisions turn a game within a split second lets wait til it happens to the wire see how they feel. i tip wigan to win the league and grand final and saints to win the challenge cup there ya go............................