In HDM Sheens stated losing Addy was a big loss because of his versatility. The fact that he sees Addy as a big loss is worrying, when most people I've spoken to think losing Addy is a bonus.

Addy has been awful it’s one injury I’m not bothered about

Regarding Addy. Just a genuine question; By my own admission I'm no scholar of the game but I think I can identify when a back has a bad game Eg bad defensively, can't convert opportunities or susceptible under a high ball but I find it difficult to gauge how a forward is performing. Eg When everyone was raving about Robbie Mulhern I couldn't see what was distinguishing him from the rest.

Any subtle pointers to look out for in my next game...?

Quote: Beverley red "Amor might be a good fit for us, I did here that rumour last week but again maybe from the same dreamer? But he appears to be way down the order at saints. We do need some size up front quickly as a good chunk of our salary cap & pack weight is sat in the stands.'" He’s an injury away from a regular place in a team that has a good shot at silverware, i assume. And then there’s the commute/need to move. He is ooc this year, though, so I guess he might want to put himself in the shop window. Signed a 3-year with Saints in November 2016. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/37978048 He’s young enough to play a couple more years, I guess (32 in May).

Quote: Beverley red "Amor might be a good fit for us, I did here that rumour last week but again maybe from the same dreamer? But he appears to be way down the order at saints. We do need some size up front quickly as a good chunk of our salary cap & pack weight is sat in the stands.'" He’s an injury away from a regular place in a team that has a good shot at silverware, i assume. And then there’s the commute/need to move. He is ooc this year, though, so I guess he might want to put himself in the shop window. Signed a 3-year with Saints in November 2016. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/37978048 He’s young enough to play a couple more years, I guess (32 in May).

There is no secret to it. Basically, is he physically dominant? You can talk all you like about the wrestle, finding your front, offloading, playing at the line etc etc. But ateotd if you don't make metres and you don't hit hard you can't be a great prop. Some guys might have more strings to their bow. Some might be good ball players, some might have good footwork, some might play for 60 or 70 minutes. But what all the good ones have in common is that they bend the line and make ground.

When confidence is low and you want the manager to come out with an epic Churchillian speach Sheen's comes out and down plays the importance of the Leeds game ffs. Stating there's plenty more games left, its only Saints after that but not to worry Tim as there'll be plenty of games left after that aswell.

IMO he's too laid back for a relegation battle, when harsh words are needed he's softly softly.

Addy is at best an average utility player, he can cover various positions without excelling at any of them, makes plenty of errors and gives away needless penalties. He should be no where near any fit 17 IMO.

Still no defence. 22-0 down. Sheens HT talk due. I expect us to concede another 50+.

Wrong anouther 2 minutes and we might have won

Points difference tells a story if you look at the league. Rovers are just leaking too many points to compete. Let’s be realistic, Leeds are poor. Anyone else apart from rovers and London would turned them over with ease today.

Absolutely! Another great 40 minute game! Something is seriously wrong with our approach to games, and the coach has to take the blame.

Imo, fans tend to stress effort, attitude and desire. And there’s probably some of that. Maybe though there’s some comfort in that because it seems fairly easy to fix, or it justifies anger, which is over and done with more quickly that despondency.

The underlying issue imo is the amount of quality we have been able to get out on the pitch in recent SL seasons. The teams we’ve fielded have been generally undersized, injury-ravaged and error-prone. Grit-toothed determination and rousing half-time speeches are not going to regularly bridge the gap.

The club did magnificently to pull itself out of the mire in 2017 and 2018, but we’ve been feeding on scraps to build our squads for a while. I don’t mean to be disrespectful, and there’s some good pros in there, but not many who’d scare opponents.

Anyway, i’m going to renew my lapsed lottery membership as a way of making myself feel better, virtue signalling or whatever.

Now seriously in the brown stuff.Every game without a win and it gets worse. At some point London are going to win and we can,t seem to buy one. Points diff is worth a league point when teams are level on wins, losses,draws, and it,s a sorry state when we might have to rely on exactly that. Oh well next up Saints and that does not bode well. Maybe we will eventually get some bodies back, maybe we will win some games,maybe we will get through a game without losing another player to injury,maybe I will win the lottery(but I won,t).Something has to change and quick.
On a positive note we eventually scored a few points, but defence is killing us.
Does this team have it in them mentally to start playing smart, ie, completing sets, not giving away cheap possession, slowing it down if and when in front, play boring if necessary, value possession and let the opposition make the mistakes.This team seems a bit dumb at times or am I been too harsh? Bottom line..too many are not up to it.
If we go down, we will deserve too,but with this squad, even with the injuries we have we should not. If we do, that,s down to the coach. Even average/poor teams can win with the right tactics,and we need some wins by whatever it takes.

Yes absolutely, Rovers have now officially the worst defence in super league.
Defence wins you games, and on that basis Rovers haven't a chance of remaining In super league in my opinion unless a major change is made within the coaching set up and London become even worse than they currently are. We are going from bad to worse at the moment and once again things don't look good at all.

we will still have the same trophies in the cabinet as you at the end of the year , zilch , 3rd with a minus points difference tells you all you need to know about your own team , dont worry andy we will be ok come october ,