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| Quote Matty_HullFC="Matty_HullFC"
Aren't you supposed to be showing me where I said Craig Hall cost us the game?'"
No.... but what i will say is you must have thought everbody else had a mistake free game as no one else has come under criticism... ie Tanseys massive blunder which was in everyway as bad as Halls, if not worse for a future Enland full back.
If you don't think he cost you the game why hang the kid out to dry.....it's the Thorman thing all over again.The kid has no confidence, he's going to make an error as soon as he's set foot on the field, you could see the pain on his face when he made the error because he knew what to expect from the terraces. Again, didn't Tansey fumble a bomb with no pressure on him and force a goal line drop out..... oh, he can't be critisised, he's the future England full back... 
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| I think tansey is more scared to go into and make a tackle then craig hall is.
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| Quote raynor the crab="raynor the crab"I would be disappointed to see Wheeldon go. As GML said, he had a great season last year and when called upon this year has been solid and reliable. I thought he was very good against Bradford and showed good pace for a prop when he made that break. I don't know why people say he's lightweight as he is at least 16 stone and hits as hard as any in SL.'"
I agree I'd like him to stay but I gather he's on quite a bit of money for a squad player we may have paid over the odds to get him in the first place, so I can't see him taking a pay cut to stay when he may have fielded better offers already.
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| Quote GraftonRed="GraftonRed"No.
If you don't think he cost you the game why hang the kid out to dry.....it's the Thorman thing all over again.The kid has no confidence, he's going to make an error as soon as he's set foot on the field, you could see the pain on his face when he made the error because he knew what to expect from the terraces. Didn't Tansey fumble a bomb with no pressure on him and force a goal line drop out..... oh, he can't be critisised, he's the future England full back...'"
Where have I hung the kid out to try? I just stated that the coach being dismayed by his error was totally understandable. There's a little bit of difference in my mind between dropping a decent high bomb to not being able to pick up a drop out with no pressure. Tansey is probably afforded more leniency due to his positive contributions being much greater than that of Craig Hall.
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| Quote GraftonRed="GraftonRed" the fans at the KC destroyed Thorman '"
Watching him play nearly destroyed me.
As for Hall,Rovers fans could be right,Morgan may turn him into a tackling machine,who knows.
Nothing against him personaly,but in my case, I would not be bothered if he stayed or went to be tuthful.
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| Quote GraftonRed="GraftonRed"No.... but what i will say is you must have thought everbody else had a mistake free game as no one else has come under criticism... ie Tanseys massive blunder which was in everyway as bad as Halls, if not worse for a future Enland full back.
If you don't think he cost you the game why hang the kid out to dry.....it's the Thorman thing all over again.The kid has no confidence, he's going to make an error as soon as he's set foot on the field, you could see the pain on his face when he made the error because he knew what to expect from the terraces. Again, didn't Tansey fumble a bomb with no pressure on him and force a goal line drop out..... oh, he can't be critisised, he's the future England full back...
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It'd be a good idea to actually read posts correctly.
All the other posted said was that Agar understandably looked annoyed after that error. It was a shocking error and one that shouldn't be made by a professional. He's not blamed Hall for the loss atall.
Why are you mentioning Tansey? I'm sure Agar wasn't too impressed with that error either and you'll find plenty of Hull supporters criticising Tansey's ability (or lack of) under the high ball.
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| Quote Matty_HullFC="Matty_HullFC"Where have I hung the kid out to try? I just stated that the coach being dismayed by his error was totally understandable. There's a little bit of difference in my mind between dropping a decent high bomb to not being able to pick up a drop out with no pressure. Tansey is probably afforded more leniency due to his positive contributions being much greater than that of Craig Hall.'"
............................Hall............Tansey
Appearances..........18................22
Tries....................09................07
Goals...................03................00
Tackles................116................81
Missed tackles........18................24
Errors...................14................36
Penalties................02................11
Meters...................848...............1902
Yeh, i can see where your coming from!
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| back to topic. imo craig hall with a bit of confidence has the ability with ball in hand to score something out of nothing. not the strongest in defence tho. however without confidence, his knack for summat off the cuff and full length of the pitch tries is reduced to zero, and basic errors creep in and is a waste of time.
confidence players are always a gamble which can go either way
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| Quote GraftonRed="GraftonRed"............................Hall............Tansey
Appearances..........18................22
Tries....................09................07
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Tackles................116................81
Missed tackles........18................24
Errors...................14................36
Penalties................02................11
Meters...................848...............1902
:1esohr1pYeh, i can see where your coming from
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| Quote GraftonRed="GraftonRed"............................Hall............Tansey
Appearances..........18................22
Tries....................09................07
Goals...................03................00
Tackles................116................81
Missed tackles........18................24
Errors...................14................36
Penalties................02................11
Meters...................848...............1902
Yeh, i can see where your coming from!'"
Dont
Its like being cruel to a Puppy 
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| I hope not.
I would take a half fit (majority of the time) Karl Pryce anyday over Hall.
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| i remember when kris welham was well known for his poor tackling maybe Agar just hasn't spent the time with hall to make him into a better defence player, i think Morgan would see it as a challenge and to also stick two fingers up to the dullers, i would welcome Craig Hall
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