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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Basis of calculation, if you'd be so kind.
The bloke who does Hull stats told me at a Derby game.
Concrete enough for you.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "2003
cooke assists 8 Hull FC tries 115
Fond memories of being freezing on the wing whilst Senior wouldnt pass to him and then being made to look like he played for West Hull against the Aussies in his preferred position.
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| Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "Fond memories of being freezing on the wing whilst Senior wouldnt pass to him and then being made to look like he played for West Hull against the Aussies in his preferred position.
Where do his calculations come from? Maybe you could ask and enlighten us all?
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Still been there though! Oh, and no, some bloke telling you things at a derby game is not concrete and you're a fool if you think it is.
Where do his calculations come from? Maybe you could ask and enlighten us all?'"
Yeah whatever.
He wasnt some bloke he was employed by Hull FC but you stick to burying your head in the sand mate.
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
Regards,
Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg |
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| i have no doubt cooke had a hand in a lot of our trys, he was our go to man.
but is the 83% having a hand in the set leading to a try, the play leading to a try or the final assist?
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| Quote: Sheldon "i have no doubt cooke had a hand in a lot of our trys, he was our go to man.
but is the 83% having a hand in the set leading to a try, the play leading to a try or the final assist?'"
I assume a hand in.
The bloke i spoke to had all the Prozone type stuff set up on his Laptop.
And the 73% was from season 2006.
That stat will be so high because he was Hull's pivot and he call the plays and moves.
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
Regards,
Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg |
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| Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "I assume a hand in.
The bloke i spoke to had all the Prozone type stuff set up on his Laptop.
And the 73% was from season 2006.
That stat will be so high because he was Hull's pivot and he call the plays and moves.'"
sorry i meant
a hand in
(1) the set leading to a try
(2) the play leading to a try
(3) the final pass or kick
i'm not doubting it, i expect all half backs to have a simalar percentage, just wondering which.
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Standing up to the forum bully.
It must be working, he doesn't like me...i'm devastated: |
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| Quote: Neil HFC "From that I assume you're taking "assist" to mean touched the ball at some point in the set a try was scored then, not the normal definition of assist that Mild Rover pointed out.
As for bitter, not in the least. He's not worth wasting that much energy or time on.'"
Maybe not for you but he has easily won a poll voted by Hull fans on the HDM website stating he was the best player to pull on your shirt in the last decade.
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| Quote: Bertie "Maybe not for you but he has easily won a poll voted by Hull fans on the HDM website stating he was the best player to pull on your shirt in the last decade.'"
Ohh, a HDM internet poll, well thats me convinced. it must be true then. Seeing the level of "debate" that goes on there, it makes this place look like the oxford university debating society.
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
Regards,
Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg |
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| Quote: Bertie "Maybe not for you but he has easily won a poll voted by Hull fans on the HDM website stating he was the best player to pull on your shirt in the last decade.'"
how many times did you vote? or did you just send pms to all the hkr fans on here and the unoffical forum?
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| Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "The bloke who does Hull stats told me at a Derby game.
Concrete enough for you.'"
About as concrete as paul cooke telling some bloke on a bus that agar has a contract on the table for him for 2011
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Standing up to the forum bully.
It must be working, he doesn't like me...i'm devastated: |
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| Quote: Sheldon "how many times did you vote? or did you just send pms to all the hkr fans on here and the unoffical forum?'"
Bless
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
Regards,
Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg |
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| Quote: Bertie "Bless
bless indeed.
wheres big spender?
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "5th or 6th is appalling with the exceptional mr cooke in the side. Or do you mean his cooking was exceptional when he was at the FC?'"
Back to your original point (which appears to have kicked off a fair few thoughts on here) i do not believe Cooke was average or less than average when he played for us. I've not had confidence in us converting field position since he went. I know he carries a certain amount of hatred from some Hull fans but to allow that to cloud your judgement is a bit ott imo.
It's interesting too to see the stats pulled out around assists. I guess they dont tell the full story, for example, if cooke passed to yeamo and then yeamo put raynor in cooke wouldnt get the assist. I also think assists dont show the leadership and direction a player may give to the attacking options. Cooke was a far better player for FC than those assist stats show. I know i'm fighting a losing battle here vs some FC fans but i just find it weird that he's been labelled as an average player for FC. Maybe his form since joining Rovers would deserve that tag but not his time with us.
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Back to your original point (which appears to have kicked off a fair few thoughts on here) i do not believe Cooke was average or less than average when he played for us. I've not had confidence in us converting field position since he went. I know he carries a certain amount of hatred from some Hull fans but to allow that to cloud your judgement is a bit ott imo.
It's interesting too to see the stats pulled out around assists. I guess they dont tell the full story, for example, if cooke passed to yeamo and then yeamo put raynor in cooke wouldnt get the assist. I also think assists dont show the leadership and direction a player may give to the attacking options. Cooke was a far better player for FC than those assist stats show. I know i'm fighting a losing battle here vs some FC fans but i just find it weird that he's been labelled as an average player for FC. Maybe his form since joining Rovers would deserve that tag but not his time with us.'"
I agree with you Dave he was very good for us and although stats are useful i think to much can be read into them, for example if teams regarded Cooke as a threat it may mean he was targeted resulting in Hull scoring a try elsewhere on the pitch due to an overlap...etc
My opinion fwiw is he was out of order towards Hull FC, we would have done better with him for the last two and a bit years, and the reason he hasnt been as succesful at HKR is he is no longer the main pivot/playmaker and in the first season he needed time to settle.
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