Oh dear, we are a bit touchy tonight aren't we?

It's no wonder it's dead on here, when you can't even get decent debate about rugby, without the deadheads spoiling it.

Even for you it's impressive that you have made a 11 letter word from a 9 letter one.

Don't apply for countdown.

You did actually put boatandocks.
By the way, b******s is an 8 letter word.

Not showing up on my iPad like that, must be a filter.

Anyway point still stands, this is meant to be a rugby forum, I actually feel sorry for the intelligent rovers fans who want to talk about rugby.

I'm happy to talk about why Ellis has been a good signing for Hull, unfortunately many others haven't, if not I'll leave it there.

Wow we've stumbled across the East Hull genius.

Ok Dave. enlighten us. Why has Ellis been a good signing bearing in mind it is off topic of course.

(answers on a postage stamp)

It was a Rovers fan who took it off topic.

As you asked so nicely, Ellis has been excellent this year, his performances have been top notch, great defence (like last year) and offering much more in attack. Even last season he wasn't as bad as people made out and without him we wouldn't have got wembley IMO as he was immense in the QF and SF.

if we had 17 players, playing as well as Ellis we would be in the top 4.

And if your aunt had balls, she'd be your uncle.

OK but has he 'hit the heights' that were promised as the marquee signing /great white hope that he was heralded as? or does he stand out because the rest of the team/squad are performing so badly?

Ellis has been a very good player in the past and I was slightly envious when Hull first signed him.
However, from what I've seen of him playing for Hull Fc he hasn't really lived up to expectations and is not getting any younger.
I'm obviously not privy to what his earning are but he will no doubt will be on a fair wedge, my question would be.....in your honest opinion, do you think you have had value for money out of him to date.?

No arguing from me, lots of the players letting the club down.

Back on topic, should Rovers try and sign Dobson and use either Burns at LF or Keating at hooker?

Last season probably not, but that was down to injuries, although as I've said without him we wouldn't have got to wembley which will have made the club lots of money.

This season certainly, him not playing for England and having an off season has helped massively, not missed a game through injury. People don't notice him as he isn't an explosive player like Hock or Manu, but he is so important to the team.

I'd have Dobbo back tomorrow but leave Travis at s/o and release Keating .

I wouldn't be surprised to see him at Salford as a replacement for Smith, they were sniffing round last year when he asked to go back to Aus.