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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"I have seen how optimistic you are for the coming season with your final league prediction, many dont agree with you but credit for your enthusiasm. It will come back to haunt you as there is no way that you guys will finish above us in the league this coming season, no way at at all and you can save this quote and use at your will!!!
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My predictions never come back to haunt me ask your mod
Last season I predicted us 4th and you guys 9th. I was so very close maybe if Radders had not lost it who knows, we were never out the top 6 all season...As for you guys I was only 2 places off.
Bookmark the thread and you will see my predictions will not be too far off...Also bookmark this thread because you will not finish above us, just because I go against the grain with my optimism does not mean I do not know my rugby.
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| Quote ="very red robin"Why do you say that Rupert? do you think we will break the top 4 once again? If so, why?'"
I think we will finish 5th but the top 6 should be a little clear of 7th and 8th in the final standings. The top 4 is not out of our reach though.
I just think our squad is superior, we have added in positions that need strengthening and we have a quality coach.
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| Were have we added that need strengthening? The only quality i can see that we needed was signing Blake Green and even that is a risk.
Mason, great but not needed in 2nd row but will take it.
Hall, neither here nor there, will either add to depth or take someones place but wont be any better then we have.
Top 4 is well out of reach, 5 6 or 7th for us again and for FC imo. With hopefully a better cup run for us this time.
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| Quote ="very red robin"Were have we added that need strengthening? The only quality i can see that we needed was signing Blake Green and even that is a risk.
Mason, great but not needed in 2nd row but will take it.
Hall, neither here nor there, will either add to depth or take someones place but wont be any better then we have.
Top 4 is well out of reach, 5 6 or 7th for us again and for FC imo. With hopefully a better cup run for us this time.'"
Green will be a better option than what we had last season at 6, surely?
Mason can play in the front row without a problem, so adds very good options.
Hall has the potential, he may may produce, he may not but will add cover in the outside backs.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Green will be a better option than what we had last season at 6, surely?
Mason can play in the front row without a problem, so adds very good options.
Hall has the potential, he may may produce, he may not but will add cover in the outside backs.'"
Mason adds a good offload IF morgan uses it, also will make space for others when hes targetted, but could cause major dressingroom disfunction.
Hall has had potential for the last 8 years, cover is all it will ever be, will not add anything.
Green i agree is obviously the best option we have to improve.... but look at the improvement of teams around us, looking at them and us id say we wont be moving much higher fast.
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| Quote ="very red robin"Were have we added that need strengthening? The only quality i can see that we needed was signing Blake Green and even that is a risk.
Mason, great but not needed in 2nd row but will take it.
Hall, neither here nor there, will either add to depth or take someones place but wont be any better then we have.
Top 4 is well out of reach, 5 6 or 7th for us again and for FC imo. With hopefully a better cup run for us this time.'"
we have added the strength as in green takes cooke's place after we binned him off after 4 games so didn't play for practically all season, mason takes walkers place who sat in the stand all season and craig hall who love him or hate him has played about 60 superleague games and scored about 40 tries takes ratu's place in the squad after looking not good enough after 4 games also. Added to that we've released former juniors who have'nt broken through really with the next batch.
I reckon that gives us a stronger squad next year, having said that I still see us as only 6th best in the league and are scrappping for 5th with hudds, unless one of the big 4 of wigan, saints, leeds or Wire unexpectedly fall over. I'd be delighted with 5th or 6th though if it includes a good cup run.
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| Quote ="very red robin"Mason adds a good offload IF morgan uses it, also will make space for others when hes targetted, =#FF0000but could cause major dressingroom disfunction.
Hall has had potential for the last 8 years, cover is all it will ever be, will not add anything.
Green i agree is obviously the best option we have to improve.... but look at the improvement of teams around us, looking at them and us id say we wont be moving much higher fast.'"
No guarantee of that happening!
The kid knows how to find the try line as Sandy has pointed out.
Teams have improved around us as we have ourselves, it shows we are not prepared to just sit back.
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| Quote ="sandy"we have added the strength as in green takes cooke's place after we binned him off after 4 games so didn't play for practically all season, mason takes walkers place who sat in the stand all season and craig hall who love him or hate him has played about 60 superleague games and scored about 40 tries takes ratu's place in the squad after looking not good enough after 4 games also. Added to that we've released former juniors who have'nt broken through really with the next batch.
I reckon that gives us a stronger squad next year, having said that I still see us as only 6th best in the league and are scrappping for 5th with hudds, unless one of the big 4 of wigan, saints, leeds or Wire unexpectedly fall over. I'd be delighted with 5th or 6th though if it includes a good cup run.'"
Exactly weve added depth not strength. Yes ok Green is going to play ill give you that 1, but we havent signed someone who is going to knock someone down a peg is what im getting at.
Walker and Cooke wernt going to be here anyway so no they havent been replaced by those players.
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| Quote ="pugwash pal"1. Tansey............ 1. Briscoe
2. Briscoe ........... 2. Fox
3. Whiting............ 3. Welham
4. Yeaman........... 4.Webster
5. Sharpe............ 5. Colbon
6. Horne............. 6. Green
7. Long.............. 7. Dobson
8. Fitzgibbon....... 8. Clinton
9. Houghton ...... 9. Fisher
10. O'Meley........ 10. Vella
11. Manu........... 11. Newton
12. Tickle.......... 12. Galea
13. Westerman... 13. Murrell
14. Washy......... 14. Mason
15. Lauak..........i 15. Lovegrove
16. Moa............. 16. Cockayne
17. Radford........ 17. Wheeldon
A bit early yet but we look very good against the warm up team. Think Hull are saying its a good time to play us as we will be a bit rusty. But man for man we look far superior. For a minute I was starting to feel sorry for them but it soon went. Come on Rovers cannot wait.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"My predictions never come back to haunt me ask your mod
Last season I predicted us 4th and you guys 9th. I was so very close maybe if Radders had not lost it who knows, we were never out the top 6 all season...As for you guys I was only 2 places off.
Bookmark the thread and you will see my predictions will not be too far off...Also bookmark this thread because you will not finish above us, just because I go against the grain with my optimism does not mean I do not know my rugby.'"
So you were wrong then
Overestimating your own side whilst underestimating Rovers, what a shock
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| Plenty to fear for Cardiff, not least
A NO away shirts to play in
B NO Willie.......plenty of cocks mind (lol)
C Nobody left in the stadium by the time we kick off
D The pitch badly cut up by the time we kick off
E Frostbite
F Getting ripped off by Cardiff hoteliers
G Burger king running out of burgers.......again!!
H Weather disrupted travel
Seriously guys, hope its a good weekend, and may the best team win( im sure we will lol)
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| If that's the hkr side I'd be confident.
There's a few changes what would improve the side IMO.
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| my predictions were hull and rovers 6th and 7th and not sure who would be higher, nearer than you i think. This year i'll go Rovers 5th Hull 7th!
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Remind me of all your predictions last year, strange thing is you lot never learn and appear to be doing it again
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I think they varied from 2-8 but most said about 7th. I was wildly optimistic and said 6th - not too shabby I suppose.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"If that's the hkr side I'd be confident.
There's a few changes what would improve the side IMO.'"
What would they be?
(I promise I won't tell Justin )
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| Quote ="SirStan"I think they varied from 2-8 but most said about 7th. I was wildly optimistic and said 6th - not too shabby I suppose.
[urlhttp://viewtopic.php?f=2&t=436886[/url'"
Very interesting looking back at some of the comments from posters...usual garbage from Zoddy & Co
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| Quote ="EL CAMO"What would they be?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Cockayne
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For me, Briscoe wasn't that bad to omit from the team, he wasn't at his best but he's a lot more solid that Cockayne at the back.
Hall needs to earn his place in the team so unless he does quite a bit more in pre season than Welham, he should retain his place.
The only other change I'd make is Murrell at loose for Watts and then put him in the front row starting with Vella, dropping Clinton to the bench in place of Wheeldon. I feel this give us better balance in the props, having one as a "holding player" and one providing a more direct contribution. Vella and Lovegrove as the holding players and Clinton and Watts as the more go forward types. I like your idea of Mason starting and hoping for a bit more impact with Newton off the bench, so I'd go with;
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| Watts ahead of Wheeldon.
Never get confident about derbies, seen too many that have gone 'against' the odds. On paper our 17 is better I think, but the game is played on grass.
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Hall needs to earn his place in the team so unless he does quite a bit more in pre season than Welham, he should retain his place.
The only other change I'd make is Murrell at loose for Watts and then put him in the front row starting with Vella, dropping Clinton to the bench in place of Wheeldon. I feel this give us better balance in the props, having one as a "holding player" and one providing a more direct contribution. Vella and Lovegrove as the holding players and Clinton and Watts as the more go forward types. I like your idea of Mason starting and hoping for a bit more impact with Newton off the bench, so I'd go with;
Briscoe, Fox, Webster, Welham, Colbon, Green, Dobson, Vella, Fisher, Watts, Mason, Galea, Murrell. Int; Hodgson, Lovegrove, Clinton, Newton.'"
=#FF0000I agree
We have so many options in the forwards e.g. Mason can play anywhere including L/F a bit like Watts did towards the end of the season.
I also wouldn't play Newton from the bench, for me he is one of the best all-round S/R in SL and needs to start.
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