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If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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| Quote: PAUL M "Aye, the most high profile player in RL apparently according to a certain someone so what does that make Rovers handling of this situation now? Also the guy that reported the proposed move to France originally knew nothing as a certain someone was in the same press conference.
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I fear (well ,not really) that there is a moderator spat developing.
How do we respond to this?
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| Quote: pmh "I fear (well ,not really) that there is a moderator spat developing.
How do we respond to this?'"
No spat, just making a comment.
Carry on regardless. |
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| Quote: WormInHand "Been thinking about this. If we assume that Mason's first contact with Toulon was the week before he was de-registered, Rovers whole argument against him would depend on how informal this meeting was. If it was a friendly visit, a tour round the stadium and a visit to the Naval museum followed by a glass of pastis at one of the bars lining the waterfront then I doubt Rovers have much of a case. It certainly went very quiet after that and looked as if Toulon had moved on.
By the time proper negotiations were entered into and money and signatures were exchanged, Rovers had de-registered him and he was a free agent, able to speak with whom he pleased. So Rovers would have no case against him. Mason, on the other hand, may well have a case against them for breach of contract. De-registration would have severely compromised the terms and conditions offered by Rovers within his contract, not least the fact that he was restricted from playing.'"
I've been thinking too, If we assume Mason had been talking to Toulon even before he came to Hull KR because he'd heard he could earn four times as much and Hull kR got wind of this. He then admitted this to the KR board once it broke and they told him he could do what he likes as he wasn;t going to be paid as he was in breach of his original contract, he was de-registered and he continued in his talks with RU.
Now what I've done there is very similar to what you've done which is just make it up to suit my own ends. (a very common trait amongst most of the FC fans I know).
O'Meley's comments are probably fair that Mason is feeling 'pretty dirty' about it all, he probably thought he could get out of all this looking like the injured party but unluckily for him he was caught out.
Yes HKR have made a pigs ear of this but I think you'll find the RL community has more disdain for WM than they do for HKR.
As I said earlier on this thread him playing for the barbarians this week is nothing short of laughable and I can see him making a complete mess of this as well. |
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| Quote: pmh "This is the state of our game. Remember, we invented it. In West Yorkshire, where you're from. And then we idolise phrases such as "pretty dirty". Our clubs should rule the globe, we're like Boca Juniors and River Plate.
This will be pulled apart, but sometimes I really feel passionately about our game. We haven't held The Ashes in my life time, will we ever?
Looked at this a few times. Yep, will look a tit, but every now and then you have to stand up.'"
I unintentionally lit your blue touch paper there, sorry. I was really pleased with the chin comment. Given, you know, Mason is well endowed in this respect.
I agree with your sentiments, but for your own safety don't disrespect O'Meley. PFU's Jonny Forriner of 2010, black boots and lunge action to die for. Me and Wormy are his virtual minders. |
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Mason is still "pretty dirty" about the situation according to O'Meley's blog on FC's website, but is taking the misleading press coverage "on the chin". Good work there, Ogre. ![]()
Well, considering he's the 'Tongan' Jimmy Hill, he could take the whole of Fleet Street on it! 
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It seems to have been forgotten that mason touted himself as been able to get a tongan passport and come of quota , rovers could not have gone for him otherwise. Yes rovers have made a big Edit-RW up and got sucked in . So to say mason has been hard done by is laughable and if everything had gone to plan and mason arrived pre-season with passport could any of you say hand on heart that he would not still have talked to toulon
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If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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| Quote: hkrovers "It seems to have been forgotten that mason touted himself as been able to get a tongan passport and come of quota , rovers could not have gone for him otherwise. Yes rovers have made a big Edit-RW up and got sucked in . So to say mason has been hard done by is laughable and if everything had gone to plan and mason arrived pre-season with passport could any of you say hand on heart that he would not still have talked to toulon'"
Good post that.
Apart from the fact that Mason was signed as a quota player and was only asked to get a Tongan passport because Rovers messed up over Galea becoming Maltese. Then, due to Rovers inadequacies in the administration department he was de registered meaning he could no longer ply his trade or sign for another rugby league club.
Nobody knows whether he would have spoken to Toulon or not even if things had gone smoothly, so yes, other than being totally wrong, great post. |
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[i:10za56ci]Hold on to me baby, his bony hands will do you no harm
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| Quote: hkrovers "It seems to have been forgotten that mason touted himself as been able to get a tongan passport and come of quota'"
Difficult to remember something that never happened. |
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| Quote: Kosh "Difficult to remember something that never happened.'"
I'd naturally assume a man of your pedigree to be able to back up that statement........................... |
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| Quote: zook ema "he was under contract to us and was talking to toulon behind our backs. he was in breach of employment contract. he wasnt and isn't innocent. to conclude well I guess then hull fc is whiter than white and is holy than thou, see you in church my son'" does paul cooke spring to mind  |
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| Quote: gingerspice "Anyone watched Boots n All tonight.............'"
Missed it,owt interesting? |
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| Quote: barton baird "Missed it,owt interesting?'"
Ah yeah stevo loves KR and thinks Big Willie is a conman and a total rip off..........  |
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| Quote: SirStan "I'd naturally assume a man of your pedigree to be able to back up that statement...........................'"
PMH seems to have summarised the actual happenings more than adequately. |
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| More Willie Mason "reaction" in the HDM tomorrow. Ooh. |
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