Just watched a review of 2013 season on sky, we came 8th but you could see the failings that never got addressed and which ultimately led us down few year later.A world away from the defensive pride we seem to have now. We went out to Saints in playoff 46-10 which I'd forgot about.not as bad as 70 odd point loss for others.Id forgot that as well.

That's the most sensible thing you have ever posted on here

No need for that Stan

Hanbury is a quota player but I'd have him in front of Quinlan anyday. Great player. Can't accomodate both obviously.

Houston - no, another quota player and a very big earner. Not value for money and he looks 50 years old.

Dudson.....decent player but looks too much like a 70's pornstar.

Acton - yes definitely, big tough aggressive, English.

Depends who goes down as to who will be available. It might not be Leigh or Widnes.

Love some of your sumations Acton is a big gamble but under the right stewardship could be a cracking player. ...

Aye, they are quota. However generally when teams are related don't they foreign players get dispensation and void contracts.

You can't write Catalans off for relegation true. From there I would have

Inu
Yaha
Williame
Busquets
Bird
Batieri
Gigot ( 2 year ban mind )
Horo

Hope Catalans don't go down mind, terrific weekend away that is.

No dispensation for quota players if they go down.

No better way than to celebrate promotion than with a 'not good enough, get rid' thread. I'm all for ruthless pursuit of success at the first team level, but we can be gently diplomatic for this bunch of lads, surely?

We've got the foundations of a decent squad. Now that it will be playing next year in SL we probably need to trim the depth (but not too much!) and look for 3 or 4 quality additions. Not superstars necessarily, just good players who'll buy in to what Sheens has planned.

done all that before , awarding generous contracts to average players, its a business not a charity, need to be fairly ruthless if finances are available we need to spend wisely on upper end players in order to maintain superleague status ,otherwise dogfight again, not taking anything away from the tremendous effort of the current squad its just life at the top level

He that gets hurt will be he that has stalled.

There's a battle outside ragin'.

It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.

I think we will run with a squad of no more than 32 next year.

Keepers (26): Shaw, Minns, Heff, Carney, Oakes, Wardill, Salter, Atkin, Abdull, McGuire, Harris, Scruton, Kavanagh, Jewitt, Johnson, Mulhern, Masoe, Lunt, Lawler, Jubb, Clarkson, Blair, Addy, Donno, Cator, Greenwood.

Require (6): Fullback, Outside Back, Halfback, Prop, 2x Second Row

If they bring back licencing then there's no real rush for you to bin your current squad unless hudgell wants to be competitive with the top teams from the off.

As a minimum you need at least 2 decent back rowers, a half back and a full back plus cover for lunt and a couple of outside backs

1) New fullback
2)Carney
3)Minns
4)Heff
5)Another huge winger
6)McGuire
7)New half
Scruton
9)Lunt
10)Jewitt
11)Blair
12)New backrower
13)Lawler/Abdul (unlikely)

14)Masoe
15)Kav
16)Greenwood
17)New big prop

Would be my 17. Again I'm in camp of business not charity, can't afford for all this year to be for nothing if we're in same position as 2016 in 2018.

Are we back in 2006? Let's hope Tim Sheens spots your pearls of wisdom. Obviously we are doomed otherwise.