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| IMO:
Ken Sio > Adam Quinlan
Iain Thornley > Jake Butler-Fleming
Kieron Dixon = Kieron Moss
Josh Mantellato > Andrew Heffernan
Terry Campese > Jordan Abdull
Albert Kelly > Jamie Ellis
Adam Walker > Nick Scruton
Dane Tilse < Mitch Clark
John Boubebza v ???
James Green > George Milton
Kevin Larroyer v ???
Mitch Allgood = Danny Addy
James Webster < Tim Sheens
Does look like a very good squad for the Championship though. Crunch time will be at the end of the season, IMO the halves aren't good enough to get us promoted and we'll need more grunt in the pack.
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| Quote: rebelrobin "I forgot we have other options at hb with Blair/Quinlan. Then moss at fb. Just wondered when Kr go to Tenerife warm weather training is it after Leeds game. Cos I have a feeling shillington maybe there with them by then'"
According to '5th Tackle', Sheens has talked Shillington out of retiring, but there have been so many names mentioned by Sheens - Shillington, Hala, Page - I've given up speculating. IMO any one of these three would go well in the Championship.
I believe Rovers fly to warm weather training after Ryan Hall's testimonial.
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| Quote: rebelrobin "I forgot we have other options at hb with Blair/Quinlan. Then moss at fb. Just wondered when Kr go to Tenerife warm weather training is it after Leeds game. Cos I have a feeling shillington maybe there with them by then'"
I think I read somewhere that Shillington has retired
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| Quote: Binosh "There is a reason they are both in the championship, KR are paying Ellis a massive wedge for a 1 year loan deal after Stone said he was free to go, Abdull was on loan at Fev and Ridyard schooled him in every aspect.
The KR team looks very competitive but I don't think Abdull & Ellis are anywhere near Mellor, Drinkwater, Ridyard, Hampshire or Reynolds.
Leigh were offered Ellis & turned him down.'"
Your argument doesn't make sense, you are saying that Abdul and Ellis aren't as good as the Leigh halfbacks because they currently play in the championship, where have Ridyard, Drinkwater and Reynolds played most of their careers? None are tested in SL and you have to ask why they haven't been signed by SL clubs in the past.
How do you know how much Rovers are paying Ellis, maybe that's why Leigh choose not to sign him, rather than based in his ability.
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| I agree with him..that's how I see it at present.but I also can see others optimism in abdull ellis. Would rather had Marsh than abdull in half's I'd go so far to say I don't think abdull is good enough for a team with our aims.unless in pack where we are rich in back row.waste on salary cap imo
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| Quote: Binosh " Abdull was on loan at Fev and Ridyard schooled him in every aspect.
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Ridyard didn't "school" Abdull because Abdull didn't play in any of Fev's three games against Leigh.
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| It does make sense if read as a balanced opinion including some actual facts and not a put down to Hull KR.
They are BOTH in the champ for a reason, the reason is their parent SL clubs are unwilling to start the 2017 season with them in their squads. Both have question marks over fitness & weight.
Mellor is a quality proven SL half and is a starting half at Widnes, Drinkwater is proven at SL & NRL, Reynolds played 5 SL games as a 17 year old at Cas, Hampshire has been in SL most of his career and Ridyard is unproven at that level but is certainly one to watch for, see Gary Schofields published thoughts on him.
Anyway this is a an internet based RL opinion forum and not a crystal ball, I will keep popping back throughout the season and see how your new duo are getting on and what KR fans opinions of them are.
I actually really rate Marsh.
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| I'd rather bring on Marsh than some one else's project.Marsh has had some stand out games Widnes away sticks out for me and some bang average games.par for course for a young half.he actually looked well at fullback when put there but seeing as we now have 5, 2 of which are imports he won't get a run there.not sure how long his injury is due to last think fairly bad one?but if fit I'd rather see Marsh /Ellis than the unit
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| Quote: craig hkr "I'd rather bring on Marsh than some one else's project.Marsh has had some stand out games Widnes away sticks out for me and some bang average games.par for course for a young half.he actually looked well at fullback when put there but seeing as we now have 5, 2 of which are imports he won't get a run there.not sure how long his injury is due to last think fairly bad one?but if fit I'd rather see Marsh /Ellis than the unit'"
I think Abdul is better than Marsh and I think he will sign permanently if Kelly goes well for Hull the fact Sheens saw Marsh as a full back says it all
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| Quote: Binosh "It does make sense if read as a balanced opinion including some actual facts and not a put down to Hull KR.
They are BOTH in the champ for a reason, the reason is their parent SL clubs are unwilling to start the 2017 season with them in their squads. Both have question marks over fitness & weight.
Mellor is a quality proven SL half and is a starting half at Widnes, Drinkwater is proven at SL & NRL, Reynolds played 5 SL games as a 17 year old at Cas, Hampshire has been in SL most of his career and Ridyard is unproven at that level but is certainly one to watch for, see Gary Schofields published thoughts on him.
Anyway this is a an internet based RL opinion forum and not a crystal ball, I will keep popping back throughout the season and see how your new duo are getting on and what KR fans opinions of them are.
I actually really rate Marsh.'"
I am very balanced, in fact as a Hull fan you would expect me to side with you.
I like Mellor, he is a good runner, but he is on the own, look at how many games they won with and without Brown.
Drinkwater isn't proven at NRL and SL level, he has played 5 NRL games and only a few for London in which they only won one game and he looked pretty average to me.
Hampshire best position is FB, even at Cas when they had injuries he played on the wing.
Reynolds played 5 games of SL at 17, what does this prove?
The worst comment must be about Scofield, a great player, but terrible pundit, says things for effect.
Ellis is a decent player for a lower league side and Abdul has do much potential (more than all of those mentioned). For me they ar better combinations than both Leigh and Widnes, but as you say, we will have to see in the middle 8's.
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| Quote: craig hkr "I'd rather bring on Marsh than some one else's project.Marsh has had some stand out games Widnes away sticks out for me and some bang average games.par for course for a young half.he actually looked well at fullback when put there but seeing as we now have 5, 2 of which are imports he won't get a run there.not sure how long his injury is due to last think fairly bad one?but if fit I'd rather see Marsh /Ellis than the unit'"
Ditto
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| Cuckoo in the nest.dont need loan players who are not better than what is presently here.il trust Sheens judgement but my gut feeling is him and his parent team
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| Marsh isn't good enough at half back, we saw that week in, week out last year. Tim Sheens knows this, hence the recruitment of Abdul and the plan to go with Marsh at full back (where I think he could have a future).
I'm looking forward to seeing how our halves develop this year, so I won't write them off just yet ta.
"Josh Drinkwater proven at NRL & SL level". S.
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| Quote: SirStan "Marsh isn't good enough at half back, we saw that week in, week out last year. Tim Sheens knows this, hence the recruitment of Abdul and the plan to go with Marsh at full back (where I think he could have a future).
I'm looking forward to seeing how our halves develop this year, so I won't write them off just yet ta.
"Josh Drinkwater proven at NRL & SL level". S.'"
Don't agree. Abdull has no place in this team. Carbon copy of Addy who wasn't good enough for bradford in half's in this league. We saw Marsh against superleague defences and he never stank.few stand out games and few average but he was in a losing team.imo Smith and snide are nowt special but play behind dominant pack .In all seriousness when have we had dominant pack in recent year?Marsh will not get game at 1.quinlan moss and even cockayne in front of him.he is a half that hull player is not
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| Quote: craig hkr "Don't agree. Abdull has no place in this team. Carbon copy of Addy who wasn't good enough for bradford in half's in this league. We saw Marsh against superleague defences and he never stank.few stand out games and few average but he was in a losing team.imo Smith and snide are nowt special but play behind dominant pack .In all seriousness when have we had dominant pack in recent year?Marsh will not get game at 1.quinlan moss and even cockayne in front of him.he is a half that hull player is not'"
Addy is not a scrum half though as most Bradford fans will tell you Abdul is and I've got to say I've never watched Marsh and thought he's been a stand out player quite the opposite I'd be worried if we were going into the season with him as our first choice half
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