Im not looking to blame anyone, collectively our defence is poor i was just commenting on what you said. I rate Lovegrove and we should be looking to offer him a new deal sharpish! And im not getting into the Welham debate

Prior to the arrival of Sandercock, our defence was poor, albeit in a different sense. Our lads are now learning new structures and added to that there are players missing that'll have been worked into the structures in pre-season, this hinders training somewhat in the sense that numbers are lower and it's much harder to try out routines and structures without the correct numbers at training. Given time I'm sure Sandy'll have the lads doing what he wants and we'll all have to be patient and wait for the tree bearing fruit.

We're growing a Sandercock Tree and the Cock fruit tastes good.

That last part worries me, you really should think before saying things like that.

Is that the same as a fruit cocktail.?

Think once we get galea back Hel tighten up our defence just wish we had 3 of him on the pitch at the same time now there's an idea why don't we clone him

Metaphor, I quite liked it.

Defensive structures are a million times better then last season as we aren't seeing the massive gaps on the fringes. The problem is missed tackles with teams just rolling over us.

I think the problem is the massive gaps right across the line,our 1on1 tackling isn't good enough to spread out like we are.

Over time we'll either improve at it, or we'll revert back to a compressed, sliding defence. I reckon when we get all the first teamers that are currently injured back into training we will see an improvement right across the squad.

So which first teamers will actually be missing for the derby?

Hull to win, by 10/16.

Were still getting sucked in like we were last season, teams get through us AND outside of us far too easily, the top teams don't miss many tackles because they very rarely tackle 1 on 1.
I think CS has inherited a squad full of poor tacklers

Green, Webster, O'Hara, Clinton & Galea.