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Weird result really after your great win over Wigan last week. Thought it would be a really close game. Good luck for the rest of the season if you can get some consistency you could still make the 8's.

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MIKE SMITH- THE BEST CENTRE HULL HAS EVER MADE!:



Quote: fun time frankie "Blair has been good this season and while Maguire is injured I'd keep him there as he's steady and Atkin plays more off the cuff we just didn't have any go forward at all tonight'"
with all due respect to blair , whom I think is a good egg.he was finished in the backs when we signed him.always thought he would make a more than useful loose man unfortunately bad recruitment meant we have never played him there because he is steady which ever position he has played except half back with a donkey along side him

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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



Quote: rover 2000 "with all due respect to blair , whom I think is a good egg.he was finished in the backs when we signed him.always thought he would make a more than useful loose man unfortunately bad recruitment meant we have never played him there because he is steady which ever position he has played except half back with a donkey along side him'"

I'm saying put Blair there as we haven't much choice at the moment I'd rather see him in the pack but needs must

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First 20 mins of no effort in defence lost us that game.

Apart from that, journeyman Lee offers nothing in any position either in defence or attack. Salter was complete outclassed. Moss, for all his efforts, is just way too small. Walne is rubbish. Bobby tried too hard. Vaivai went missing (probably having to help Moss too much). Quinlans kick off was just unacceptable. There's a reason Smith has been loaned out by Saints.

The only players worth anything tonight were Atkin (no surprise) and Greenwood.

We are badly missing Lunt, Carney, Heff and Mulhearn and Lawler.

Cas were always going to bounce back but its the manner of our disinterested defence that disheartens me. Roll on July and Lunt's return.

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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



Quote: des lawson "That was pathetic,sheens was good coach,bobby charlton was a good footballer,as was geoff hurst but sadly they are past it.The games moved on,the drop off inside pass isnt working,lee at off half aint working,why do we put dagger(somebody with a bit of pace) against wigan win,and then change back to lee at off half,who couldnt make a break with no opposition.
Sheens,atkins is a scrum half,lee is a hooker,can you take that on board.'"

At least you got your wish and Moss played

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Quote: Gallanteer "First 20 mins of no effort in defence lost us that game.

Apart from that, journeyman Lee offers nothing in any position either in defence or attack. Salter was complete outclassed. Moss, for all his efforts, is just way too small. Walne is rubbish. Bobby tried too hard. Vaivai went missing (probably having to help Moss too much). Quinlans kick off was just unacceptable. There's a reason Smith has been loaned out by Saints.

The only players worth anything tonight were Atkin (no surprise) and Greenwood.

We are badly missing Lunt, Carney, Heff and Mulhearn and Lawler.

Cas were always going to bounce back but its the manner of our disinterested defence that disheartens me. Roll on July and Lunt's return.'"
that's how I saw it bud spot on imo. the young saints hooker is miles away and 5 or 6 years of salter is enough

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We have let better prospects of our own go and bringing in the Saints kid isn't good for team morale.Stilll feel Moss has plenty to offer but is a luxury in a pop gun team. Weak willed weak bodied.Yes Cas played fast and hard but so did we last week .The range between our good performance and poor ones is far too wide

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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



I'm not against bringing in a loan hooker I don't believe it damages morale it's just this kid brings nothing and for all the cries for Moss to play well he did and he did nothing too lightweight for me

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I didnt expect us to get the win last night but i did expect us to be competetive though, the first 20 minutes was probably the most inept ive seen for a while, no effort, energy or passion.
It just shows how poor Wigan must have been last week.
Sheens talking about the changes he had to make on the edges doesnt cut it with me either, Carney yes but Wallis and Dagger were his choice, saying that we could have played the 1st choice Aussie backs behind that pathetic pack and still got dry bummed.

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Quote: fun time frankie "I'm not against bringing in a loan hooker I don't believe it damages morale it's just this kid brings nothing and for all the cries for Moss to play well he did and he did nothing too lightweight for me'"

Well if their is a middle eights maybe then we might win more games on the trot and we should have all our good players back I bet the list to not keep certain players is growing

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All the lads catching it in the neck (Moss, Smith, Atkin ) are all potentially good players but only Atkin you would say would be first choice in their positions? At the time non are good enough to step into a weakened side which even at full strength is only mid table at best. Salter & lee are what we ask of them utility options & back up bench players. We are just unfortunate that we have to use all the afore mentioned as starting players. All the above would do Ok in a side on thier own but are lacking as a collective. It is going to be hard going but as we proved last week there is the glimpse of a decent team in there.

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Nothing complicated about it, and as has been said too many times, the pack is not collectively good enough and way too small. The adage the pack wins you the game and the backs decide by how much is so true, and recruitment in this area has been a big big failure.
Last night we were bullied again, and you can bet your bottom dollar that the other teams in the eights will recruit before the split, and if we don,t we are in real trouble, we are in trouble now.
If and it,s a massive if, our key players are back in time we have a chance, but cannot rely on that.
Very worrying times.

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Smug get

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Quote: craig hkr "Smug get'"


He is smug, but I wouldn’t be smug if I was him seeing the coaches around me getting sacked. Surely the board have to act soon and either make big changes to the squad or bring in a new coach?

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