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Rovers deserved their win because they were by far the better team, but all of the video ref calls were correct imo, apart from, as Jake said, the last one.

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Rovers deserved their win because they were by far the better team, but all of the video ref calls were correct imo, apart from, as Jake said, the last one.'"

icon_lol.gif So it was you who was the VR last night then! Your post is clearly deluded (another with black and white specs). Some awful, awful decisions against Rovers last night. Imagine this officiating was against your lot? Your board would of been on melt down! Still, a sweet victory. Going to be a great bank holiday weekend. k020.gif

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Quote: giddyupoldfella "To be fair to you in game play it did look like you had some harsh decisions against you, but then on tv replays most decisions turned out right.

Caro was offside
Burns did shoulder charge the player and Burns did drop a forearm in to Hadley's head
Houghton did get the ball down

The try disallowed were Hall was judged to have knocked on was 50/50 and could have gone either way
And the one were Weyman i think it was went over the line and Shaul came away with the ball, I thought that Weyman just lost the ball into Shauls hands.

I personally thought Childs did much better than I expected him to.

But I do understand your feeling of being victimized when your teams on the wrong end of many decisions.'"


Thanks for sparing me typing up an excellent summary. I thought Child was outstanding. His fitness, positioning, awareness, linking with linesmen use of the VR were spot on. I think HKR fans are now the seventh club to believe the RFL has an agenda against them this season. It is childish, paranoid, small town mentality rubbish. Congratulations on the win, you thoroughly deserved it. Also what a gracious, articulate man Sandercock is. I don't get that feeling about Radford.

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Quote: tigertot "Thanks for sparing me typing up an excellent summary. I thought Child was outstanding. His fitness, positioning, awareness, linking with linesmen use of the VR were spot on. I think HKR fans are now the seventh club to believe the RFL has an agenda against them this season. It is childish, paranoid, small town mentality rubbish. Congratulations on the win, you thoroughly deserved it. Also what a gracious, articulate man Sandercock is. I don't get that feeling about Radford.'"

Seriously?? d040.gif Another deluded poster.

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Whilst I wouldn't go quite so far as to say outstanding I do think child had a good game and did as well as any ref could have done. Fans really need to get over "bagging the ref", yes they could do better, but there aren't enough of them to create competition.
I don't get why fans moan when ref's give too many penalties and slow the game down and then moan when they don't give enough! They can't win!

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I thought child did ok last night, a few calls went either way and the vr is there to be used. The vr on the other hand was just baffling. When Cummings and Kear are left bemused and sky who will back a ref at all costs can't understand it then it is more than paranoia.

I can handle bad calls by refs,, its a difficult job at full speed but when thr vr gives bad ones the thats another story

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Quote: Hessle rover "The travesty of tonight was we only won by a point. Your right. We were 20 points better tonight.

My Merlot is tasting sweet tho. Going to enjoy this bank holiday weekend now.
Totally agree!

How on earth was Bowdens try allowed after the NFL style pass from Watts? Yeamans pass to the binman to was also questionable in my mind!

VR an absolute joke, nothing wrong with the Costigan try off the palm back and Burns and Miller was just a collision at speed and they was just the big decisions. Rhys over the line was a strip, seen clearly be everyone, Welham tackled in the air, FC penalty, tbh you could go on when really you shouldnt be. The players deserve the credit and thats what we should be talking about but once again the officials are a complete bunch of incompetent fools.

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Quote: Hessle rover "icon_lol.gif So it was you who was the VR last night then! Your post is clearly deluded (another with black and white specs). Some awful, awful decisions against Rovers last night. Imagine this officiating was against your lot? Your board would of been on melt down! Still, a sweet victory. Going to be a great bank holiday weekend.
By all means enjoy your win, but when you have calmed down go watch it properly. Houghton clearly got the ball down. Caro was clearly offside. Hall touched the ball before Whiting. It was a shoulder charge. The stolen over the line one was hard to call but since the ref thought it was play on then you have to stick with his decision. The only one the VR got wrong was the drop goal which never touched anyone.

Child got some decisions wrong, I thought the pass to Bowden was forward for example. But all the decisions that got sent upstairs were correct imo.

Tbh I'm getting sick and tired of fans (and I'm including Hull fans) thinking there's some agenda against them. It's pathetic.

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Well the whole SKY commentary team seem to think we was hard done on a couple of occasions by the VR, more than hard done to!

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Quote: Rupert Pupkin "Well the whole SKY commentary team seem to think we was hard done on a couple of occasions by the VR, more than hard done to!'"


Alright then. Which decisions in particular did you think were incorrect?

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Alright then. Which decisions in particular did you think were incorrect?'"


You can read my post on the previous page.

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Alright then. Which decisions in particular did you think were incorrect?'"


This is a wind up right?

Clearly Lovegrove gave Shaul the ball. In no way was Shaul trying to get control of the ball to stop him scoring. That's what happened. If you slow it down enough you can see Rhys pass a note to Shaul as well apologising for his attempt to score.

If Miller hadn't slipped on his own faeces having soiled himself looking at the oncoming defender rather than the ball Burns wouldn't have attempted to murder him as Silverwood saw it. Clearly Burns should have stood still and allowed Miller to hit him.
Miller looked like a rabbit in headlights all night. Burns terrified him.
The Costigan try I'll need to see again. I saw no touch from Hall.
Welhman's try. Caro may have been off side but I have never seen a score disallowed for that ever. What a spot from the officials. Incredible for Child to spot that off side when he saw no others all game.
Hull should have won by 30 given all that help but failed.
Rovers getting better and better. No Eden Hodgson Ulugia Keating Walker bros Langley Carlise last night.
Favourite moment from last night Cox twirling Houghton around and throwing him about like a dad with an infant daughter.
Heard Gareth Ellis has signed for Hull. When does he turn up?

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Yep just seen your post.

Quote: Rupert Pupkin "Totally agree!

How on earth was Bowdens try allowed after the NFL style pass from Watts? Yeamans pass to the binman to was also questionable in my mind!

VR an absolute joke, nothing wrong with the Costigan try off the palm back and Burns and Miller was just a collision at speed and they was just the big decisions. Rhys over the line was a strip, seen clearly be everyone, Welham tackled in the air, FC penalty, tbh you could go on when really you shouldnt be. The players deserve the credit and thats what we should be talking about but once again the officials are a complete bunch of incompetent fools.'"


The forward pass I fully agree with, but that's not a video ref error. The tackled in the air was very close, I actually thought Welham might have had one foot down, but either way, that's not a video ref error either.

Watch the "palm back" closely. Hall gets his hand in between Whiting's hands. He gets the first touch, then it hits Whiting and he drops it. In that situation you have to give a knock on against Hall, you couldn't tell what direction it was travelling in.

The shoulder charge one I wouldn't have complained about, but then if you go to the letter of the law it is a shoulder charge. If Burns had got his arms around him then it wouldn't have been an issue, but he tucked his elbow by his side and hit him with the shoulder. Whilst I'm on that subject I don't think it was a try anyway, looked like a double movement and/or a drop over the line, but I guess we'll never know now.

The stolen over the line one I was surprised went our way. But watch where Shaul's hands/arms where as they were falling to ground, it's very hard to steal a ball in that position. It looked to me that the ball jarred loose as they hit the deck, and Shaul picked it up off Lovegrove's chest. There wasn't really a definitive angle, but Child obviously thought it was lost and he was in the perfect position.

Rovers deserved to win by more, but that was due to them being the better team, not due to video ref mistakes.

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Yep just seen your post.

The forward pass I fully agree with, but that's not a video ref error. The tackled in the air was very close, I actually thought Welham might have had one foot down, but either way, that's not a video ref error either.

Watch the "palm back" closely. Hall gets his hand in between Whiting's hands. He gets the first touch, then it hits Whiting and he drops it. In that situation you have to give a knock on against Hall, you couldn't tell what direction it was travelling in.

The shoulder charge one I wouldn't have complained about, but then if you go to the letter of the law it is a shoulder charge. If Burns had got his arms around him then it wouldn't have been an issue, but he tucked his elbow by his side and hit him with the shoulder. Whilst I'm on that subject I don't think it was a try anyway, looked like a double movement and/or a drop over the line, but I guess we'll never know now.

The stolen over the line one I was surprised went our way. But watch where Shaul's hands/arms where as they were falling to ground, it's very hard to steal a ball in that position. It looked to me that the ball jarred loose as they hit the deck, and Shaul picked it up off Lovegrove's chest. There wasn't really a definitive angle, but Child obviously thought it was lost and he was in the perfect position.

Rovers deserved to win by more, but that was due to them being the better team, not due to video ref mistakes.'"


You can go over them with your view as much as you want, the decisions I mentioned I believed where wrong and pretty much the whole SKY team agreed with them. Plenty on the VT also thought we was really hard done to! I honestly cant believe some people agree with the VR, it is ruining our game, they cant get simple decisions correct!

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Quote: Rupert Pupkin "You can go over them with your view as much as you want, the decisions I mentioned I believed where wrong and pretty much the whole SKY team agreed with them. Plenty on the VT also thought we was really hard done to! I honestly cant believe some people agree with the VR, it is ruining our game, they cant get simple decisions correct!'"


Fair enough, you have your opinion, I have mine.

If I was in charge of the RFL the first 2 things I would do are scrap the 40/20 rule (absolutely hate it, just punishes good defence and bails out a team who have done a poor exit set) and scrap the video ref. Not only is it unfair that it's only at one game per round, but it slows the games down too much. I wouldn't mind if it was just there to remove the glaring errors, but most of the time they seem desperate to find something wrong with even the most obvious try. No video ref would have probably seen us lose by more last night, but I don't care, I'm fed up of it.

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