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Quote: rover49 "True, but lets look at it another way.

If I as a 52 yr old man was to deck my garden out in childrens toys and rides and then invite kids into my house to spend weekends with me and then tell everyone I had slept with small boys, but only in an innocent way and I am in fact a child at heart, I doubt I would be free for long and would be banged up at HM pleasure in a segregated section of it. This would happen even if I was telling the truth.

This pervert got away with it because of who he was and how much money he had, stop being a bloody idiot.'"


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Quote: rover49 "True, but lets look at it another way.

If I as a 52 yr old man was to deck my garden out in childrens toys and rides and then invite kids into my house to spend weekends with me and then tell everyone I had slept with small boys, but only in an innocent way and I am in fact a child at heart, I doubt I would be free for long and would be banged up at HM pleasure in a segregated section of it. This would happen even if I was telling the truth.

This pervert got away with it because of who he was and how much money he had, stop being a bloody idiot.'"


Just one question!!!
If you have kids would you accept any amount of money in the world as a payoff if someone had supposedly tarnished them in the way that Michael Jackson was accused of?

If your answer is yes then you would be worse than the accused if they were guilty of the crime!!!

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Quote: chukabutt "Just one question!!!
If you have kids would you accept any amount of money in the world as a payoff if someone had supposedly tarnished them in the way that Michael Jackson was accused of?

If your answer is yes then you would be worse than the accused if they were guilty of the crime!!!'"


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Also funny how this claim came after the Bashir documentary.

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Quote: chukabutt "Just one question!!!
If you have kids would you accept any amount of money in the world as a payoff if someone had supposedly tarnished them in the way that Michael Jackson was accused of?

If your answer is yes then you would be worse than the accused if they were guilty of the crime!!!'"


15 million was hell of a payoff though wasnt it

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Any guy admitting sleeping with young boys isn't exactly a good role model

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Quote: rover49 "True, but lets look at it another way.

If I as a 52 yr old man was to deck my garden out in childrens toys and rides and then invite kids into my house to spend weekends with me and then tell everyone I had slept with small boys, but only in an innocent way and I am in fact a child at heart, I doubt I would be free for long and would be banged up at HM pleasure in a segregated section of it. This would happen even if I was telling the truth.

This pervert got away with it because of who he was and how much money he had, stop being a bloody idiot.'"


His music was ok. But the above.....agree wholeheartedly.

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Quote: gingerobin "Oh well if he's a pop icon let's all quietly respect him.
And then we can arrange Gary Glitters state funeral.
Open your eyes, his being a pop icon gave him the opportunity to do the things he ]did].

He sleep on the bed, not on the floor!
Sha mon Mothef**kers.'"


Since when did you become the judge and the jury, he was aquitted of any crimes. period. Unfortunately mud sticks and there will always be people who will point the finger of guilt, history is full of such cases.
He was never my cup of tea as a person, his personality was a little strange to say the least although i believe, this was largely to do with his upbringing as a child , his father by all acounts, should shoulder much of the blame for that.
At the end of the day he was an incredible musical and dance talent, probably the best by far of his generation and beyond, but with obviouse insecurities.

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Quote: chukabutt "Just one question!!!
If you have kids would you accept any amount of money in the world as a payoff if someone had supposedly tarnished them in the way that Michael Jackson was accused of?

If your answer is yes then you would be worse than the accused if they were guilty of the crime!!!'"
Also am I correct in remebering that the procecusion had so little proof that they wanted to use the Bashir inteview as some kind of evidence and which one of his accusers was proved to have a history of wrongly accusing celebs for blackmailing purposes again btw?

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Quote: chukabutt "Just one question!!!
If you have kids would you accept any amount of money in the world as a payoff if someone had supposedly tarnished them in the way that Michael Jackson was accused of?

If your answer is yes then you would be worse than the accused if they were guilty of the crime!!!'"


I have, although grown up, but I would have made sure he was dead a long time ago if he had done it to mine. Not everyone is the same, its what makes us all human beings, differences.

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My point of view is that I think the man is a freak, but not guilty of being a peado. I don't think he was, think he was fleeced by scumbags. yeah, he is a freak, but remember he has 3 kids. Don't think he is guilty of being a peado, just think kids were on his level.

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Quote: rover49 "I have, although grown up, but I would have made sure he was dead a long time ago if he had done it to mine. Not everyone is the same, its what makes us all human beings, differences.'"


and you express this by calling people idiots?! Good man, well done.

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Quote: rover49 "I have, although grown up, but I would have made sure he was dead a long time ago if he had done it to mine. Not everyone is the same, its what makes us all human beings, differences.'"


I think you will find that we are (Human Beings) somewhere in the region of 99% all the same.

See its blinkered views from what the press says that ironically makes you the same as alot of other numpties, this was always a case of its in the news and on the Suns front page so it must be true.
Although the same could be said for those poor people who were locked up for the Birmingham Bombings, I bet you wanted them to swing at the time.
I admittadly am a MJ Fan and had tickets to go next month so what i say is no doubt classed as some sort of Bias,
However from the age of 3 he was made to sing and dance by his unrelenting father (the same as his other siblings) who then pushed them for bigger things.
By the age of eight he was singing and dancing to sell out concerts over the world and was prbably the most famous face on the planet.
His childhood consisted of no childhood at all.
For god sake the song Ben is about a bloody rat who he fed in the middle of every night because ther was no one or anything else in his life.
He tried to rebuild his childhood and was looked apon as a peadophile although the accusers son later stood in court (when he was found NOT GUILTY) and said nothing ever happened and as a child he said what his parents told him to.
Other Iconic figueres such as Macolly Kulkin were also around him alot as a child and defended the man venomously.
The man has three of his own children who lived with him and no one with any sort of power in these matters deemed him unsafe to look after or be around them.
This is not a MJ problem it is a society problem, Its just like when my nephew at the age of 4/5 would get in the bath with me when i was looking after him. That had to stop when someone pointed out that they didnt think it was right. I had never thought anything of it as that is not how i think but they did!!

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Quote: Alex Mc "and you express this by calling people idiots?! Good man, well done.'"


Some are idiots, whats your point

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Quote: chukabutt "I think you will find that we are (Human Beings) somewhere in the region of 99% all the same.

See its blinkered views from what the press says that ironically makes you the same as alot of other numpties, this was always a case of its in the news and on the Suns front page so it must be true.
Although the same could be said for those poor people who were locked up for the Birmingham Bombings, I bet you wanted them to swing at the time.
I admittadly am a MJ Fan and had tickets to go next month so what i say is no doubt classed as some sort of Bias,
However from the age of 3 he was made to sing and dance by his unrelenting father (the same as his other siblings) who then pushed them for bigger things.
By the age of eight he was singing and dancing to sell out concerts over the world and was prbably the most famous face on the planet.
His childhood consisted of no childhood at all.
For god sake the song Ben is about a bloody rat who he fed in the middle of every night because ther was no one or anything else in his life.
He tried to rebuild his childhood and was looked apon as a peadophile although the accusers son later stood in court (when he was found NOT GUILTY) and said nothing ever happened and as a child he said what his parents told him to.
Other Iconic figueres such as Macolly Kulkin were also around him alot as a child and defended the man venomously.
The man has three of his own children who lived with him and no one with any sort of power in these matters deemed him unsafe to look after or be around them.
This is not a MJ problem it is a society problem, Its just like when my nephew at the age of 4/5 would get in the bath with me when i was looking after him. That had to stop when someone pointed out that they didnt think it was right. I had never thought anything of it as that is not how i think but they did!!'"


Question, would you have let a child of yours sleep over at his house !!

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