Exactly the same thing happened to my mates Toyota jeep it was going to cost him something stupid like 6 grand when it was only a few months out of warranty I think he ended up paying a fraction of it so good luck with that

There is no such thing as a 'Toyota jeep'. OK?

Those Dyson hoovers are ace aren't they?

Singer from Pavement is a hull city fan!

So, career, career, career...

No pink pugsleys or brown bombers this Saturday for me. Or for the last thousand or so. Or ever again. Wistful.

it's a big Toyota with a cab and then like a pick up back end you know what I mean I will get the chassis number if you want so we can narrow down what it is

If FTF's mate can't have a Toyota Jeep, then MR can't have a Dyson Hoover! But we all know what he means.

You wouldn't have a Land Rover mitsubishi, would you? Jeeps and Land Rovers are the originals and best. Referring to your cheap imitation wannabe as a 'jeep' is a bit cringy. In the same way that you wouldn't refer to your glass of Cava as Champagne. Or your double oven as your Aga.

Dyson hoover is, however, perfectly acceptable as Dyson is the superior product. And in the same way that people say sellotape, escalator and durex it doesn't matter because all these brand names describe everyday objects that are familiar and ever-present. Hoover's the same. Jeep isn't.

(Oh, God. Some daft bint on Come Dine With Me has just offered her guests 'Champagne' and then proceeded to give them Prosecco.)

What about Cornish pasties?

Very nice indeed. Yum.

But is it a Cornish Pasty when not made and sold in Cornwall? The Cornish say not.

It's like Lincolnshire sausages. Lincolnshire butchers are trying to get their sausages Geographically Protected so they can only be called 'Lincolnshire sausages' if they're made in the county and to a certain recipe. They're still battling, although Melton Mowbray pork pies have this protection. Not sure about Cornish pasties.

Thing is, I'm not over keen on Melton Mowbray pork pies and have tasted glorious pies from many local shops. There's a sublime place in
Skipton and a fab butcher in Preston near Hull that does delectable ones with the fat all leaking out of the top and baked on, mmmmm. So you wouldn't aspire to a Melton Mowbray pork pie once you'd tasted a better one like you would a Range Rover if you had a Rav4.

So it's not about raping brand names per se, more like pretending to grandeur when you shouldn't. Like calling your Primani sheepskin boots 'Ugg boots'. Or your nasty block paved square in front of your house that used to be your front garden your 'drive'.

Cornish Pasties do have Geographical Protection.

The thing with pork pies (and it's not fat, it's a liquor that's poured in the top, that's what the little hole is for) is that in the midlands they use cured pork, that's why it's a grey colour as opposed to Yorkshire pork pies that have pink meat. We also tend to use a spicier recipe often involving quite a bit of white pepper and mace.

Didn't realise that. I find the grey pork pies vaguely off-putting, like they [iare[/i off, like the top bit of minced beef goes if you leave it out for too long. Spicy and pink, like a lot of other pleasures in life, every time. I think I might have a go at making some for Christmas. Do you know of a reliable recipe for dunces?

And we'll all go back to Oggy land, to Oggy land, to oggy land,
and we'll all go back to Oggy land

People still know what is meant by Jeep, in the same way they know a Hoover is describing a vacuum cleaner.

The Preston pork pies are nice I agree.

As for the conversation you are having I think it's down to lazyness. I mean using the recognised brand means you don't actually have to explain what it is or where it's from to get your point across.