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Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "You contredict yourself in that post.
Cooke was the creator of 73% of your tries with much more then just a cut out pass.'"


1st time we've ever agreed i think, i must be wrong. icon_wink.gif icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Big Dave T "I kind of understand what youre saying, i dont agree. I'm not a Rovers fan in disguise, you do know that FC fans are permitted to have differing opinions dont you? .'"


I meant with your seeming inability to understand a simple concept. Most Hull FC fans differ in their opinions from mine but most eventually realise I was right in the first place

Quote: Big Dave T "He's not an all time great. The arguement was that Cooke was our main attacking player. He was exceptional at the job he did for us, not just decent imo. He didnt have an all round game and meant we were one dimensional, but he gave us what we havent had since, a cutting attack. (i agree, we had no other weapons, that shouldnt water down the role that Cooke did, effectively he played 2 or 3 peoples roles) .'"


We never had a "cutting attack" when cooke was our main playmaker. In 2005 we were only the 6th highest scoring team in SL and in 2006 the 5th highest.

Quote: Big Dave T "I agree that Swain has been our biggest loss overall, however in attack its Cooke. .'"


Or head or dykes (both of whom were much better players than cooke but blighted by injury


Quote: Big Dave T "Yes we've been playing with poor players or injuries since Cooke left which is the reason we've been poor, but to go back the the original arguement, Cooke leaving is the reason for that! If Cooke hadnt left we wouldnt have made poor recruitment or brought in aussies with poor injury records, on that basis i'd say youre wrong to play down Cookes role at Hull as been an exceptional player and our key attacking weapon.'"


cooke leaving is the reason we haven't had a decent 1/2 back since? One way of looking at it I suppose but I'd say the failure to replace him with one of the numerous better players available is another.

His role at Hull was pivotal but it doesn't mean it he was exceptional (which he certainly wasn't). At rovers he isn't even as good as canberra's previous 3rd choice half back and I doubt there'll be a queue of top clubs wanting to sign him for next season

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Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "You contredict yourself in that post.
Cooke was the creator of 73% of your tries with much more then just a cut out pass.'"


In 2006 we scored 124 tries and cooke had 24 assists. How is that 73%?

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Quote: Big Dave T "1st time we've ever agreed i think, i must be wrong.
Thank god we've got that agreed. Usually takes a bit longer

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Quote: Jake the Peg "In 2006 we scored 124 tries and cooke had 24 assists. How is that 73%?'"



Depends where you get your stats.
Last year Kris Whelham missed more tackles alone then the whole team according to to the Engage site icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "Depends where you get your stats.
Last year Kris Whelham missed more tackles alone then the whole team according to to the Engage site
So, the team stat was wrong? icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "Depends where you get your stats.
Last year Kris Whelham missed more tackles alone then the whole team according to to the Engage site

Unlikely given the number murrell misses icon_lol.gif

I doubt even the exceptional mr cooke had 100+ try assists in a season though icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Jake the Peg "
We never had a "cutting attack" when cooke was our main playmaker. In 2005 we were only the 6th highest scoring team in SL and in 2006 the 5th highest.
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5th or 6th is pretty good, compared to 12th or 13th like we've had since. That seems pretty cutting to me in comparison. Youre seeming to not get this fairly simple concept! icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Jake the Peg "In 2006 we scored 124 tries and cooke had 24 assists. How is that 73%?'"


Actually GML's selling Cooke short. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Actually GML's selling Cooke short. Good effort Mrs B, but not good enough.

The 73% figure is for the 2006 season.

The 83% is for the 4 seasons 2003 - 2006.

Either is a damning statistic about how little the rest of the team contributed FC's attack and both stats validate how totally overrated the rest of the team were - particularly Yeaman the Snail and Horne, who has been well and truly found out as a half-back since Cooke left...

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Quote: General Zod. "Good effort Mrs B, but not good enough.

The 73% figure is for the 2006 season.

The 83% is for the 4 seasons 2003 - 2006.

Either is a damning statistic about how little the rest of the team contributed FC's attack and both stats validate how totally overrated the rest of the team were - particularly Yeaman the Snail and Horne, who has been well and truly found out as a half-back since Cooke left...'"


Basis of calculation, if you'd be so kind. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Basis of calculation, if you'd be so kind. I'm certain they are based from the opta stats.

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Quote: General Zod. "I'm certain they are based from the opta stats.'"


What for, Cooke assists + tries as % of total FC tries?

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