Just watched Leigh v warry. Strange game. On paper warry looked way better but on pitch was one sided not a pretty team to watch but effective so far.look an old team and strange signings. Think as season goes on they will find way into bottom 4 . Warrington will struggle for top 8 now so for me I'd go hudds Widnes Leigh and either Salford hull or Warrington in middle 8. I still think as we are we cannot displace any of these teams but a quality half Clark fully fit and a beast of a 2nd row and why not. heard a rumour Dave Taylor .

The same Dave Taylor who just signed for Canberra? Or a different one?

Yes the ex Catalan big unit. Maybe a bogus lead but he is the type of player we need imo

I don't think we have much to fear with either Hudds or Widnes. I expect Wakey to tail off soon as well. Actually, Salford and Leigh might make the top 8. Warry will improve, but it may take Smith being sacked to do so.

Hudds and Widnes I think are prettty much odds on, I still think wire will get out of it but not get anywhere near enough points to challenge. Leigh I agree should struggle as the year goes on and I think Wakey are an injury away from a bad run.

I assume including Hull in there was based on emotion rather than any evidence. They defend far too well and are too dogged to end up down there. They aren't playing too well but are grinding out results and I'd have them more likely top 4 than bottom 4.

Agreed, absolutely no chance FC will be anywhere near bottom four. Too much quality, grinding out wins when playing bad so surely will click at some point.

Widnes, Hudds, Leigh, Wakefield for me. Wakefield in 9th. I don't think you want Warrington in the middle 8's way too much quality, waste of a game. Think they will sneak the 8th position, but be way behind the rest and have 7 meaningless games

Leigh's season so far is reminding me of our 1st season - Energy, enthusiasm, good kick chase and a lively atmosphere at home. I think once they get a couple of beatings and the novelty of super league wears off they could struggle, not sure they can win away from home either. I do think they have more quality then we had in year 1 though.

Is James Green injured??

In your dreams

I agree with you. Unfeasible, unless Hull get an injury crisis of similar magnitude to the one that has done the rounds of several Super League teams in recent seasons.

I have to agree that Warrington have too much class for bottom 4 of SL, although they were shocking and rudderless against Leigh last night.

Reckon if Wire lose the next couple then the rot will set in for the season and another Leeds will be on the cards for them. Still see Salford being in the bottom 4 at the end of the season along with Widnes, Huddersfield and any one of Leigh, St Helens, Wire and Cats.

Think Saints will only click into gear if and when Matty Smith plays again this season. Don't like them, their idiotic t#t of a coach, their t*at of a captain and their horrible gozz flobbing fans, some of whom behaved appallingly last season in the evening fixture at ours.

I think the bottom 4 will be Leigh, Hudds, Wakey and Widnes.

Probably the 4 you would choose, but all 4 can play, Even Widnes run Wigan close, drew in Perpignan and actually looked good in parts last night.

There is plenty of time for the season to take its toll, and as long as at least one is as bereft of energy and ideas as Salford, Hudds and Rovers were last year, we'll have a chance.

We'll still have to raise our game significantly from the Championship, and a lot depends on how the scheduling pans out. If somebody like Warrington are bottom 4 you're much better playing them in the last couple of rounds when they're already probably be safe. Also if Toulouse are involved you'd prefer them at home, and similar for Widnes with their plaggy pitch maybe.

rovers will need to strengthen in the halfs, back row and probably outside backs to be in with a good shout of promotion but I do think at least 2 of the SL sides look vulnerable

No he's not, had a few run outs and doesn't let us down.

Can't see him in our starting 17 when we have a fully fit squad, may just be me but he lacks a bit of intensity to be a top prop at this level.
Don't get me wrong, seems a decent player, just lacks a bit of something

Pretty much the same player that left us then, One big hit then a few missed tackles and a certain lack of stamina. Flattered to decieve

I want a pint of what your drinking fc and wire will not be in middle 8s