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| Quote: Paul T - HKR "In some respects I would agree, but continuance of credit is always a concern and an aspect of the business monthly cycle.
A change in management structure can often undermine this. In fact, even under the assurances of NH and RC Rovers have had a number of 'credit' problems. Credit is a very fickle business and one that needs to be untarnished.
To the current Board's 'credit' they have worked hard to rebuild what was a very poor credit rating (remnants of the CVA), to the extent that they have been able to qualify for the terms and conditions demanded by prudential borrowing (re the North stand).
Its all well and good to 'settle' debts but this has to be proven month-on-month. This is something that TL will be entrusted with.'"
Two points. I'd check your assertion that Rovers credit rating has been rebuilt with D&B. And prudential borrowing is taken out by Hull City Council, not Rovers.
Anyway, it's good Tony has confirmed the cash is as good as in the bank. The contractual elements will be pretty complex I'd imagine. If the deal is £15m, when does control transfer? If Rovers bank £5m and there's a delay on the remaining £10m, can TL claim ownership anyway through the materiality of his investment? Have the RFL signed him off? Such fun!
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| Quote: Mrs Barista ". . .prudential borrowing is taken out by Hull City Council, not Rovers.'"
I agree, however, for the Council to 'qualify' they had to conduct due diligence on Rovers (and the other parties involved) under the strict Treasury guidelines (risk assessment etc etc).
I see you dropped in D&B, but for the most part Rovers credit rating has improved under the current Board; Rovers have moved on beyond the cash-only days!
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| Quote: Bomber's tash "As a Hull FC fan this news excites me as a rugby league fan I want to see the sport grow & have both Hull clubs be challenging for honours.
How great would it be to be the top two clubs in the competition it would bring this city back to life. Would love to see both clubs regularly filling their stadiums.
In this economic climate anyone opposed to investors are foolish. The sport as a whole is crying out for investment. Bradford & Salforc are proof of this.
If this investment comes off hopefully both Hull clubs should be in a strong position & be top 4 clubs for the foreseeable future & who knows we might get another all Hull wembley final. As much as the clubs are rivals nothing could compare to playing each other in a final. Seems some supporters would happily let the FC or KR die depending on who they support.
Both teams will benefit from each other both pushing at the right end of the table.'"
coming from a hull fan well said i also say bring him in but hutch has got to stay at least for the next couple of years to make sure we are ok but if true lets have the money
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| Quote: Paul T - HKR "I agree, however, for the Council to 'qualify' they had to conduct due diligence on Rovers (and the other parties involved) under the strict Treasury guidelines (risk assessment etc etc).
I see you dropped in D&B, but for the most part Rovers credit rating has improved under the current Board; Rovers have moved on beyond the cash-only days!'"
The Council are under-writing it at their own risk. If you think there's been a steady improvement in Rovers credit rating when they are filing losses of half a million a year and have a recent CCJ, I invite you to validate this through D&B. All of which is entirely irrelevant when a wedge of £15m cash is about to land, of course.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "If nothing else it represents a big improvement in media management. Nice variation on the Humber Bridge background that is traditional for these things.
I've been back and forth in my head over that. 'They haven't confirmed it, but then they haven't denied it, it's Christmas, Hudgell is in Mexico, he's been seen with the Chief Executive, but admits the money is only imminent.'
I guess we're entering the endgame at least. The money will go through and it'll happen - or not.'"
Talks have been on-going for over 3 months we are told. Judging by Mr Larvins comments, he is happy with everything and wants to proceed with the deal. The vast amount of money he is talking about investing is pretty much un-parralled in Rugby League circles.
Despite this there is obviously something that is holding back Hudgell and Crossland from sanctioning the deal. They are intelligent and successful business men. If they are having doubts then something obviously isnt right.
It is too good to be true and wont happen.
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| I thought the RFL had to vet all owners of SL clubs and check their background.
If TL is to be classed as the owner, surely this must have happened and if it goes through, they must have approved (unless it is purely a recommendation from the RFL and they cannot actually block a deal)?
Any confirmation of this (or at least the theory behind it)?
(Mrs B alluded to this question as well, a few posts back)
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "The Council are under-writing it at their own risk. If you think there's been a steady improvement in Rovers credit rating when they are filing losses of half a million a year and have a recent CCJ, I invite you to validate this through D&B. All of which is entirely irrelevant when a wedge of £15m cash is about to land, of course.
This has the potential of derailing yet another ‘Larvin’ thread, so I will not be engaging in a ‘debate’ over this.
Rover’s finances are a well worn path and one that you like to walk down too often, so I am out lol!
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| Quote: R.B.A "Talks have been on-going for over 3 months we are told. Judging by Mr Larvins comments, he is happy with everything and wants to proceed with the deal. The vast amount of money he is talking about investing is pretty much un-parralled in Rugby League circles.
Despite this there is obviously something that is holding back Hudgell and Crossland from sanctioning the deal. They are intelligent and successful business men. If they are having doubts then something obviously isnt right.
It is too good to be true and wont happen.'"
There [imight conceivably[/i be an issue around liquidity of assets.
That said, I remain somewhat dubious and I know I'm not alone. I'll happily offer to lead the apology delegation, as and when. We should know if it will be needed imminently.
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| Quote: Paul T - HKR "This has the potential of derailing yet another ‘Larvin’ thread, so I will not be engaging in a ‘debate’ over this.
Rover’s finances are a well worn path and one that you like to walk down too often, so I am out lol!'"
Exemplary!
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Exemplary!
mao roverism is spreading
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| Quote: hull smallears "mao roverism is spreading
Shut it plebeian!
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Shut it plebeian!
. . .NOT exemplary!!!!!!
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| Tony Larvin - the saviour of our great club?
Imminent takeover from the shouter at the pub?
Methinks it could be too good to be true,
Eventually we'll know whether it was a load of poo.
So much money, an eight-figure amount,
Hopefully he will sort out our liabilities account.
Anakin's having a fit - threads are being locked,
Red haired Gleeson may be already crocked?
Eyes will be watching from around the M62.
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| Have i had a post removed?
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| Quote: Hutchie "Have i had a post removed?'"
More like frontal lobe.
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