Would have been a different story with carvell, morley and westwood in the team though

rovers have spent a large amount of money on their 1/2 backs, one of whom has gone and the other is underperforming (or maybe just performing at his level now). As Hull have proven, you can't win games without decent half backs

Give it a rest.

Agree with that.

And that.



Blooming heck, even most of that. Wire's squad has great depth. Their recruitment has been second to none over the last three years and that year on year investment is paying dividends. Last year's cup win will breed confidence - they've got a chance this year.
As you say you can't win without decent halves, so Rovers were right to spend there. Dobson is a good player - put him next to Briers, behind Morley, Carvell, the Andersons, Westwood, Solomona and the rest, with 2 of King, Atkins or Bridge at centre and he'd look amazing. Quality attracts quality - I wouldn't be amazed if Myler really did take less than Salford were offering.

the difference with us this year is that the players seem to have belief in each others capabilities. I thought we might lose to you last night with a weakened team but there seems to be some real confidence at the moment.

For KR, I thought you seemed a little one dimensional in attack and Dobson wasn't at his best. You seemed to overrun the pass and execute poor 5th tackle options too oftenwhich left us picking up the ball on our 40 or better - makes it difficult to win from that sort of position.

Story of our season to a tee.

With our only real attacking option in Dobbo wer relying on he forwards battring down the middle to get into there half so we can bring dobbo into the game, the trouble is our forwards arnt big enough to get us there which is leading to a poor 5th tackle play. Teams are starting there sets on the half way line putting us on the back foot straight away.

When did Wigan fans get so bitter and obsessed about Wire? Isn't hating Saints enough?

I'd agree with that.

The biggest surprise for me was how poor the kicking game was. Apart from the kick for Welham's try just about every other was pants and allowed Wire to immediately pressure the Rovers defence. I realise that Dobson was often kicking from poor field possession, but given his reputation as a kicker he was well off form.

Not once did Dobson have a blocker though, i agree with you but surley you need to protect your kicker to give him time.

I don't think its down to the forwards. I think our pack is decent and can mix it with the best.



He's never been that great. And therein lies the problem; it's not the forwards that fail to gain field position, it's our kicking game.

Dobson's a good halfback and a top goal kicker, but his general kicking is vastly overrated IMO. Also rarely gets any distance on kicks for touch or dropouts either.

Also most sides have a fullback with ball handling skills as a 3rd outlet but Briscoe is very poor in this regard and cant help Dobson out either.

They can i agree but not after defending set after set on there own line, this is what grinding us down.

you have issues,seen a good doctor lately?

Who?

you know funnily enough i thought dobson did pretty well last night with some outlet kicks. We did similar to salford last week with containing them within pretty much their own thirty and returning the ball with some real vigour so they weren't making much ground at all, with rushed kicks as well.

Last night dobson did a reasonable job of getting rid and finding the floor between the 'two fullbacks' system that we're using at the moment, don't know if you picked up on that from last night's game but we've been doing that for most of this year and is a bit of a bugger to kick against.