Quote: "except had you done so you would be further along now.'"
To borrow a joke from physics - that argument only works for a spherical Hull KR in a vacuum. We'd still be in the second tier if we'd have invested in youth instead of the first team.
Quote: "Its a part of the short-term thinking that has left us so far behind. A big part of it.'"
What has left us so far behind Australia is the size of the sport here compared to there. We're so far [iahead[/i of France for a similar reason. It's unpalatable, but there are no silver-bullets that will significantly change the balance - it's were it is for some very good and, frankly, obvious reasons. Now that isn't to say we shouldn't try - but denial and fantasy, while making a lovely comfort blanket, are not helpful.
Quote: "Im sure if you look back to the beginning of this season, and the season before that, and the season before that then when these criticisms were made of HKR, the same arguments in their defence were made just using different players who were 'being brought through' and were going 'to be given a shot this year' and how when the likes of Vella and Newton left they would be replaced by young british players, and we were going to see Spaven, I'anson, Mariano, and Esders come through and it just didnt happen.'"
Yep. Even I think the implementation of the non-fed rule has become a joke. The new Crusaders and Heremaia/Dobson dispensations have given us 3 extra overseas players, and I can't make that argument with a straight face anymore. It's not my job or investment on the line, but as an established SL club, I think we should have gone into 2012 with a couple fewer. I think there is some value in the non-fed rule, but for rather different reasons to you.
Quote: "Convenient when Rovers have been beneficiaries of the dispensation culture that has ridden roughshod over the stated and agreed intentions of all SL clubs to close loopholes. If we learn nothing from the successful actions to avoid compliance with the agreement, it makes the chances of ever achieving those stated common goals a reality nil.'"
We've been lucky. We've benefitted more than most. Sometimes life deals you a decent hand. It has helped make Rovers a mid-ranking SL club very quickly. I'm a club-first parochialist... but England RL was not significantly harmed in the making of this movie. These threads are small price to pay.
Quote: "You've been adopting this laissez faire attitude for years, telling us "this too will pass" and it will all come right in the end if we just wait. The reality is that we'll still be having this conversation in another 5 years time as you well know, as long as clubs are actively pursuing 11 overseas players in their squad. As said, I'd be happy for our overseas contingent to be Manu, O'Meley, Moa, Seymour and Heremaia.
I do find your passive acceptance of Rovers dispensation seeking at every turn a bit odd.'"
The extent to which [ithe club[/i has [isought[/i dispensations is exaggerated, IMO. Lovegrove, fair enough. But nobody will complain if fellow British passport holders Laurence Pearce and George Griffin get dispensations, I assume. Mason's dispensation was necessary because Tonga had a nervous breakdown, but let's count that too. The rest were universal. Now, we haven't run away from them either, but I see no shame in playing a good hand.
Just for clarification - you'd be happy to go with the 5 overseas players you list, even while other clubs benefit from the dispensations, as a moral 'stand', despite the likely sporting and economic consequences? Or only if all SL clubs reduce to 5, something that would probably be of relative benefit to Hull FC?
Quote: "Like the statement that Rovers only have Jordan Tansey and Karl Pryce available to them so McDonnell is the sensible option. Your CEO stated a year ago that recruitment for 2012 was underway, so you've had a year to do what you've been talking about, ie seeking British replacements for the likes of Fisher and Vella. It's a bit silly to be saying now, at the point when 95% of recruitment is done, that Rovers have no alternative but to go overseas. Unfortunately I can't see any end to having overseas player numbers in double digit quantities unless there is a gentleman's agreement observed by all. This just won't happen.'"
Sorry - call me cynical.