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Quote: east hull FC fan "Well done on completely missing the point.

I was pointing out that I was looking for reasons as to why he gave it.'"


None of the above happened though so your missing the point. Still the result is as it is a result. you got the two points further discussion is irrelevant It aint changing anything.

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Quote: Kosh "Having viewed the incident numerous times I'm beginning to think he was drunk. Or that the 'tracking the wrong player' excuse is covering up a deeper misunderstanding of the laws.'"


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The thing about tracking the wrong player is that having tracked him, you'd notice your mistake and go back and track the right player, surely?
As far as excusing ignorance with stupidity, I'm not sure it saves many blushes. icon_smile.gif

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I still don't understand why Thaler didn't tell his boss to re-look at the decision before confirming it was a try. This surely has to be the way forward before we get more unbelievable decisions like this. Everyone knew it wasn't a try but it was allowed to stand. It was nothing to do with technology it was plainly wrong but could easily have been prevented from standing.

If that decision had been made at the KC or Craven Park with a bigger partisan crowd it could have caused trouble.

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The thing about tracking the wrong player is that having tracked him, you'd notice your mistake and go back and track the right player, surely?
As far as excusing ignorance with stupidity, I'm not sure it saves many blushes.
Have just watched the incident again and as Danny kicks the ball there is a maximum of 3 players offside. Green & Lynch stood together to his left and one another to his right (possibly Pitts who is virtually in line with Danny). As the play moves on after the kick Lynch & Pitts make little attempt to move forward and are behind Danny all the way, which only leaves Green to track.

Having reviewed the first couple of seconds, the only question remaining was to track Green's position and did Eden touch the ball. The answer to both these questions was fairly easy to deduce. It's not as if he had a multitude of options to explore. Only Ganson knows his reasoning behind this and his official excuse simply doesn't wash in the above scenario.

I find it as unfathomable as everyone else (on both sides), but you may not be too surprised to learn that I didn't lose too much in the way of sleep last night icon_biggrin.gif .

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Quote: Easty "None of the above happened though so your missing the point. Still the result is as it is a result. you got the two points further discussion is irrelevant It aint changing anything.'"

You need to tell that to your chairman.

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Quote: Mild Rover "
You'd have thought so, wouldn't you? Not that I can think of any way in which you'd track the wrong man to start with given that there were hardly an abundance of options.

Quote: Mild Rover "As far as excusing ignorance with stupidity, I'm not sure it saves many blushes. Not Ganson's at any rate. But it does avoid hard questions about whether the guy in charge of the officials actually knows the laws of the game. That's an entirely different level of issue to a one-off brain-fart.

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Someone scores and there is a doubt as to onside/offside. Who the hell do you track in this situation???

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Quote: roversmad "Someone scores and there is a doubt as to onside/offside. Who the hell do you track in this situation???'"


As much as my team benefitted from the decision, this is my train of thought as well.

Surely, all Ganson had to do was look at who touched the ball first after the kick from Houghton (in this case Green) and then run the footage back to see where Green had come from at the point of the kick. After a review of approximately 10 seconds we end up with a decision of offside.

Still, as I've posted on a couple of other sites, there is an element of black humour to all of this (well for us at least, if not for you lot icon_smile.gif ).

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I am pragmatic about these things, an inch or two in front is hard to judge & I can except if it had gone against us a real time judgement, I can't except what happened last night, Green was at least three meters offside after that point the only way he could be classed on side was for the kicker to run him on side (he did not) even then he would have to stay ten meters away from Eden & Eden would have had to touch the ball which he did not, a totally wrong decision on three counts. The worst decision I have seen in over 50 years of watching this game. It has severly dented my confidence the integraty of the officials. The only thing I take comfort in is the commitment from the players I could fault nothing in their attitude & the way the coach got them prepared.

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Quote: Beverley red "I am pragmatic about these things, an inch or two in front is hard to judge & I can except if it had gone against us a real time judgement, I can't except what happened last night, Green was at least three meters offside after that point the only way he could be classed on side was for the kicker to run him on side (he did not) even then he would have to stay ten meters away from Eden & Eden would have had to touch the ball which he did not, a totally wrong decision on three counts. The worst decision I have seen in over 50 years of watching this game. It has severly dented my confidence the integraty of the officials. The only thing I take comfort in is the commitment from the players I could fault nothing in their attitude & the way the coach got them prepared.'"


This will make you feel better.

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Quote: Beverley red "I am pragmatic about these things, an inch or two in front is hard to judge & I can except if it had gone against us a real time judgement, I can't except what happened last night, Green was at least three meters offside after that point the only way he could be classed on side was for the kicker to run him on side (he did not) even then he would have to stay ten meters away from Eden & Eden would have had to touch the ball which he did not, a totally wrong decision on three counts. The worst decision I have seen in over 50 years of watching this game. It has severly dented my confidence the integraty of the officials. The only thing I take comfort in is the commitment from the players I could fault nothing in their attitude & the way the coach got them prepared.'"


This will make you feel better.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2osfeOSlHEg

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Quote: east hull FC fan "While we're talking about decisions, it was a shocking decision to give you a penalty for O'Meley's perfectly legal shot on Mika. So if the try had been disallowed and a penalty given, you should have been kicking it to only tie the game.

But us Hull fans have been decent enough to let that one go.'"


Think that one slipped through the net when the 'official club statement' was drawn up.

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Quote: Staffs FC "Think that one slipped through the net when the 'official club statement' was drawn up.'"

As did the forward pass for one of their tries yesterday as well.

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HAVING JUST WATCHED THE INCIDENT AGAIN FOR THE 10TH TIME I HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT GANSON NEW ALL ALONG THAT GREEN WAS OFFSIDE AND SOME WARPED SENCE OF HUMOUR THAT HE OBVIOUSLY POSSESESS TOOK OVER HIS BRAIN FOR A FEW SECONDS AND HE THOUGHT **** IT WHY NOT. PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE SANDERCOCK AND SMOKE IT.

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Quote: Wellsy13 "As did the forward pass for one of their tries yesterday as well.'"


We can go on for ever about these things like forward passes or did the ball touch the line tries (yeaman)
But when the video ref watches it for 5 minutes then makes a complete hash of it , then its a different ball game.

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