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| Quote: SirStan "Smokey, as usual, your arguments have no element of quality control in them. A year ago you were telling us that replacing I'Anson with Blake Green was a "like for like swap". Green was POTY, whilst I'anson is looking forward to a career with Swinton. ATEOTD, Rovers have to give their customers what they want as a priority. That means putting a competitive team out on the park. Player development will be done for Rovers benefit, the national team is not our responsibility. If it were we wouldn't have that clown as coach.'"
Defo agree with u stan on that last comment |
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "What a poor effort. I've said many times, and started critical threads on this very fact. FC's youth development and failure to give a player a debut in 2011 is a disgrace, pure and simple, and mainly due to Agar's short term preservationist strategy. Unacceptable. Despite this, we've 7 or 8 overseas players on our books, not 11, and I think we should really limit this to 5. Martin is a poor signing (again which I've commented on critically) and I'd very much hope he doesn't keep a player like Turner or Whiting out of the team. Rovers are improving their academy, for sure, but will still probably have a starting 17 with a majority of non-British players in 2012, that's going into your 6th season. The difference between us, as ever, is that I feel comfortable criticising FC in areas of weakness and what are, IMO, policies and practices that are not to be glossed over. Rovers fans by and large feel unable to critique the fact that 6 years on 11 overseas players is probably a few too many, given that Hudgell signed up for 5 in 2007.'"
Surely your time would be better served over on the Hull FC board then. |
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"They supercede individuals, they supercede the team and they supercede the club. Our club is a traditional, working class club and the supporters are loyal and passionate and to see them go away happy really makes my day." Craig Sandercock.:7063.jpg |
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "What a poor effort. I've said many times, and started critical threads on this very fact. FC's youth development and failure to give a player a debut in 2011 is a disgrace, pure and simple, and mainly due to Agar's short term preservationist strategy. Unacceptable. Despite this, we've 7 or 8 overseas players on our books, not 11, and I think we should really limit this to 5. Martin is a poor signing (again which I've commented on critically) and I'd very much hope he doesn't keep a player like Turner or Whiting out of the team. Rovers are improving their academy, for sure, but will still probably have a starting 17 with a majority of non-British players in 2012, that's going into your 6th season. The difference between us, as ever, is that I feel comfortable criticising FC in areas of weakness and what are, IMO, policies and practices that are not to be glossed over. Rovers fans by and large feel unable to critique the fact that 6 years on 11 overseas players is probably a few too many, given that Hudgell signed up for 5 in 2007.'"
I count only 10 overseas players for Rovers. No doubt when if it becomes official about Mcdonnell and Mika and the departure of Misi it will be 11. Still we have 10 overseas players after 6 years of SL and Hull have 8 overseas players after 15 years.
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2007 was a long time ago in SL development terms. Lets look at the changing landscape; a move from 12 to 14 teams. This has diluted the player pool significantly and put simply, their isn't enough British talent to go around. Then there is the Crusaders experiment implosion to deal with. Withers & O'Hara was a situation nobody saw coming, but we would have been foolish to ignore this. Not many teams have failed to take someone on this exemption.
Providing Rovers continue to give the likes of Taylor, Cox & Sheriff a fair crack at the 1st team, I'm comfortable with the club's policy.
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| Quote: Barnacle Bill "Surely your time would be better served over on the Hull FC board then.'"
Dont worry she booked in at spec savers with me  |
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"They supercede individuals, they supercede the team and they supercede the club. Our club is a traditional, working class club and the supporters are loyal and passionate and to see them go away happy really makes my day." Craig Sandercock.:7063.jpg |
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Providing Rovers continue to give the likes of Taylor, Cox & Sheriff a fair crack at the 1st team, I'm comfortable with the club's policy.'" (1)Kris Welham
(2) Jordan Cox
(3) Liam Watts
(4) Louis Sheriffe
(5) Scott Taylor
(6) Aaron Ollett
(7) Rhys Lovegrove
(icon_cool.gif Scott Murrell
(9) Liam Salter
(10) Nick Johnson
(11) Sam Latus
(12) Rich Beaumont
(13) Chris Heil
(14) James Green
This is our full homegrown list. Discounting Lovegrove and Murrell If we can see six of that list regularly getting game time that would be an awesome effort for 2012. |
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| Quote: SirStan "Smokey, as usual, your arguments have no element of quality control in them. A year ago you were telling us that replacing I'Anson with Blake Green was a "like for like swap". Green was POTY, whilst I'anson is looking forward to a career with Swinton. ATEOTD, Rovers have to give their customers what they want as a priority. That means putting a competitive team out on the park. Player development will be done for Rovers benefit, the national team is not our responsibility. If it were we wouldn't have that clown as coach.'"
It was a like for like swap, one untried mid-twenties reserve player for another untried mid-twenties reserve player. Maybe if I'anson had been given a proper shot at first team before he was 23 he would have been able to forge a career at SL level. |
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| Quote: SirStan "2007 was a long time ago in SL development terms. Lets look at the changing landscape; a move from 12 to 14 teams. This has diluted the player pool significantly and put simply, their isn't enough British talent to go around. Then there is the Crusaders experiment implosion to deal with. Withers & O'Hara was a situation nobody saw coming, but we would have been foolish to ignore this. Not many teams have failed to take someone on this exemption. '" How many british players who otherwise would have been at HKR did Crusaders take out of the player pool?
Quote: SirStan "Providing Rovers continue to give the likes of Taylor, Cox & Sheriff a fair crack at the 1st team, I'm comfortable with the club's policy.'" They would need to start and actually give them a shot for them to continue to do so. |
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"They supercede individuals, they supercede the team and they supercede the club. Our club is a traditional, working class club and the supporters are loyal and passionate and to see them go away happy really makes my day." Craig Sandercock.:7063.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "
They would need to start and actually give them a shot for them to continue to do so.'"
Between them they played 28 games last season. |
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| Quote: Easty "Between them they played 28 games last season.'"
Thats just pathetically disingenuous and you know it. |
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| Quote: Easty "I count only 10 overseas players for Rovers. No doubt when if it becomes official about Mcdonnell and Mika and the departure of Misi it will be 11. Still we have 10 overseas players after 6 years of SL and Hull have 8 overseas players after 15 years.
Kind of sucks being you doesn't it?'"
Not at all. I can see FC's faults and am big enough to discuss them without the need for knee-jerk and myopic defence of things that are patently not right. We are 3 over the quota numbers agreed in 2007 and this is disappointing. You are 6 over and either don't care or feel some strange need to defend it as an irrelevance. That's the difference between us, I suppose. By your logic I guess, Widnes should have 15 overseas players. Guess what? They have less than Rovers. Oh dear.  |
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"They supercede individuals, they supercede the team and they supercede the club. Our club is a traditional, working class club and the supporters are loyal and passionate and to see them go away happy really makes my day." Craig Sandercock.:7063.jpg |
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Not at all. I can see FC's faults and am big enough to discuss them without the need for knee-jerk and myopic defence of things that are patently not right. We are 3 over the quota numbers agreed in 2007 and this is disappointing. You are 6 over and either don't care or feel some strange need to defend it as an irrelevance. That's the difference between us, I suppose. By your logic I guess, Widnes should have 15 overseas players. Guess what? They have less than Rovers. Oh dear. ![]()
Strange need to defend it, Lets see if you can dig up a post where I defend our recruitment policy?
I simply can't see how you can comment after your team have had 10 more years in super league and have a massive total of 2 less overseas players then ourselves. It's shoddy from both clubs.
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| Quote: Easty "It's shoddy from both clubs.'"
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "It was a like for like swap, one untried mid-twenties reserve player for another untried mid-twenties reserve player. Maybe if I'anson had been given a proper shot at first team before he was 23 he would have been able to forge a career at SL level.'"
I will forgive you as you won't have seen I'Anson play much, but our coaching staff were right out of turd polish, hence his release. Interesting that Widnes had a similar stock out of the same item. |
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| Quote: SirStan "I will forgive you as you won't have seen I'Anson play much, but our coaching staff were right out of turd polish, hence his release. Interesting that Widnes had a similar stock out of the same item.'"
Not forgetting of course that this is the same I'Anson who was dumped by his previous club following a serious leg injury and after not really being given a fair crack at a first team spot who we than magnanimously picked up and gave a fair crack at Super League to.
Which team was that?
Leeds.
Same team that Scott Murrell was at. |
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