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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



Quote: Zook Ema's Hose "I need to do the maths?

Please read the league table and digest. We already have a better PD than Hudds who were shocking yesterday and who will lose to unbeaten Leeds. We play winless Featherstone next so our PD will be 50 points better then Huddersfield going into the last game. So In the last game we can lose as long as not by 50 clear points. Clear enough?'"

And what happens if hudds beat us but Salford win there last 2 games against championship sides by big margins like today then weres your cast iron theory

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Quote: Zook Ema's Hose "I need to do the maths?

Please read the league table and digest. We already have a better PD than Hudds who were shocking yesterday and who will lose to unbeaten Leeds. We play winless Featherstone next so our PD will be 50 points better then Huddersfield going into the last game. So In the last game we can lose as long as not by 50 clear points. Clear enough?'"

No, absolutely crazy on your part to paint a scenario in this way.

As an ardent Rovers fan and a glass half full person, I would love your season ending synopsis above to come to fruition and perhaps it might.

However, your assertive attempts to depict a foregone conclusion scenario with 2 games to go and with multiple permutations still to play out, are deeply disrespectful to the other teams involved and an insult to our collective intelligence and recent experiences supporting this Hull KR team imo. Perhaps it's me being needlessly and cautiously realstic and over reactive towards you.

Hope you don't operate as a life coach with that level of smug arrogance and complacency on view.

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Quote: Zook Ema's Hose "I need to do the maths?

Please read the league table and digest. We already have a better PD than Hudds who were shocking yesterday and who will lose to unbeaten Leeds. We play winless Featherstone next so our PD will be 50 points better then Huddersfield going into the last game. So In the last game we can lose as long as not by 50 clear points. Clear enough?'"


In this possible, but by no means certain scenario, Hudds would only need to beat us by 25 or 26. Every point they won by would effectively count double - improving their PD and reducing ours.

I'd actually be a bit nervous about the psychology of 'defending a lead' from minute 1, especially if it was 'only' 12 or 14 points.

First things, first - Featherstone.

The other thing nagging at the back of my mind is that Salford might know they're in the MPG ahead of round 7, and can ease through their last game while we and Hudds exhaust each other.

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Quote: Mild Rover "In this possible, but by no means certain scenario, Hudds would only need to beat us by 25 or 26. Every point they won by would effectively count double - improving their PD and reducing ours.

I'd actually be a bit nervous about the psychology of 'defending a lead' from minute 1, especially if it was 'only' 12 or 14 points.

First things, first - Featherstone.

The other thing nagging at the back of my mind is that Salford might know they're in the MPG ahead of round 7, and can ease through their last game while we and Hudds exhaust each other.'"

You are right the all thing nags me but one thing for sure if we do get to stay in super league we want to make sure it does not happen again please

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Quote: Zook Ema's Hose "I need to do the maths?

Please read the league table and digest. We already have a better PD than Hudds who were shocking yesterday and who will lose to unbeaten Leeds. We play winless Featherstone next so our PD will be 50 points better then Huddersfield going into the last game. So In the last game we can lose as long as not by 50 clear points. Clear enough?'"


Leeds beating Hudds is no way a given, as a few have said they are safe and may be on the beach / operating table already. But even if Leeds win by say a standard 12 and we beat Featherstone by say 40 that will give us a 50 points cushion over Hudds, Hudds beat us by 25 and that gone as has been said starting a game out at +25 is a really odd position and attitude wise could be off putting.

Equally Salford will likely match any deficit we put on Feath, so they may have to beat Batley by 50 (less any score we lose to Hudds) not unlikely at all.

Shame that Leigh collapsed a bit on Saturday, had they gone into a game against us having to win by 40+ then they may have rested a few players and made it a hell of a lot easier for us.

I think that all ends up we'll have to beat Hudds to avoid the MPG, who it will be against is anyones guess

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Let's forget about who needs to beat who and by how many! Just go out and win all three games and we should be alright.

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Quote: Zook Ema's Hose "I need to do the maths?

Please read the league table and digest. We already have a better PD than Hudds who were shocking yesterday and who will lose to unbeaten Leeds. We play winless Featherstone next so our PD will be 50 points better then Huddersfield going into the last game. So In the last game we can lose as long as not by 50 clear points. Clear enough?'"


You might want to re-do your maths.

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Already stated on another thread. I had not taken into account Leeds absences and in the end we were placed in the MPG by a drop goal that wasn't even in.

Salford will not present us with a real challenge. Sheens has walked tonight and there was enough in our second forty yesterday to show what we've got when up against it. I have no worries about survival. Another season of big changes though puts us behind the eightball. The squad including all the overseas players must be back in pre season first week of November to right the wrongs of this year's disaster.

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Quote: Zook Ema's Hose "Already stated on another thread. I had not taken into account Leeds absences and in the end we were placed in the MPG by a drop goal that wasn't even in.

Salford will not present us with a real challenge. Sheens has walked tonight and there was enough in our second forty yesterday to show what we've got when up against it. I have no worries about survival. Another season of big changes though puts us behind the eightball. The squad including all the overseas players must be back in pre season first week of November to right the wrongs of this year's disaster.'"

I think Salford will present us with a challenge and judging by your last set of predictions which all turned out to be completely wrong I'd be careful what you say or you'll end up looking stupid again

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Great name though, works on so many levels.

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Said before this team has no backbone. That first half we witnessed this weekend was not unexpected. They've been doing it all year.
Write Salford off at your peril. You can be sure they'll be just as up for it as our weak knead bunch of useless s.
Just hope that Neil will cover the huge short fall in central finding that we will recieve, if we go down, tho it's his descisions that have put us in this mess. I'm truly in despair with our club at what has happened this season.
Too many knock backs this season to even try to be positive. Sorry to say, I'm expecting the worst.

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Quote: Zook Ema's Hose "Already stated on another thread. I had not taken into account Leeds absences and in the end we were placed in the MPG by a drop goal that wasn't even in.

Salford will not present us with a real challenge. Sheens has walked tonight and there was enough in our second forty yesterday to show what we've got when up against it. I have no worries about survival. Another season of big changes though puts us behind the eightball. The squad including all the overseas players must be back in pre season first week of November to right the wrongs of this year's disaster.'"


A drop goal that every man and his dog who weren't wearing red and white tinted spectacles say it went in.

Even so, underestimate Salford at your peril. While I think they will go down, it'll be close.

And for the record, it went in.

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Quote: Willzay "A drop goal that every man and his dog who weren't wearing red and white tinted spectacles say it went in.

Even so, underestimate Salford at your peril. While I think they will go down, it'll be close.

And for the record, it went in.'"


Its a complete moot point, most I have heard said it was difficult to say, but the man who mattered thought it did. If it had been ours then we would allbe convinced it was through the middle. We need to drop the victim act, we got a fair few 'calls' our way and in the end the decision to try and push a pass and not go for the 1 before DB did has cost us big time. Lets get some positive vibes going around the team and hopefully Salford bottle it more than we do.

Am I confident of a win, no. It'll be a horrible game, great for the winner, awful for the loser but win or lose I'll be there next year I just might get a parking spot a bit easier.

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Quote: Zook Ema's Hose "Already stated on another thread. I had not taken into account Leeds absences and in the end we were placed in the MPG by a drop goal that wasn't even in.

Salford will not present us with a real challenge. Sheens has walked tonight and there was enough in our second forty yesterday to show what we've got when up against it. I have no worries about survival. Another season of big changes though puts us behind the eightball. The squad including all the overseas players must be back in pre season first week of November to right the wrongs of this year's disaster.'"


Are you referencing the drop goal that was only required because your final try was incorrectly given? It went over...get over it. Moreover, do you actually believe that starting pre season in November will improve the skill levels of your mediocre overseas contingent!? You couldn't make it up!

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Quote: spegs "Are you referencing the drop goal that was only required because your final try was incorrectly given? It went over...get over it. Moreover, do you actually believe that starting pre season in November will improve the skill levels of your mediocre overseas contingent!? You couldn't make it up!'"


I'm sure the Leigh forum is missing its idiot troll

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