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Quote: mean_machine "I understand the moss sentiments, and for me he should of played friday. However, you can not argue with what young Wallis has produced over these two games.

For me, Moss just doesn;t make enough yards on returns. And with quinlan at the back who is not going to get dropped rightly so, i don't think TS wants two weak returns if possible ( even more so when shaw's playing)

With carney out, my two wingers would be

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In a couple of years a back 3 of Oakes, Wallis, Dagger will look pretty exciting'"


Agree about the youngsters,but why would you prefer somebody who has scored 6 tries in 14 matches over a player who has scored 4 tries in 1 match and 15 minutes and 7 tries in one game for york,I know its lower level,but what does he have to do ??.Moss has the 2nd highest making ground per carry in superleague.11.76 metres per carry.

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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



I would put Moss in front of Shaw but not Carney

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Quote: des lawson "Agree about the youngsters,but why would you prefer somebody who has scored 6 tries in 14 matches over a player who has scored 4 tries in 1 match and 15 minutes and 7 tries in one game for york,I know its lower level,but what does he have to do ??.Moss has the 2nd highest making ground per carry in superleague.11.76 metres per carry.'"

Again this means nothing in the context that he has played 1 game. You can bang the same drum over and over again but it wont force TS to pick him or make your argument anymore or less valid.

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IMO i dont think TS had any intention of playing Moss this season hence letting him get cup tied at york. Injuries forced his hand though. It was a strange one pre season when Sheens backtracked on his decision to release him only to decide to hang onto him then ship him off to York.

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Quote: fun time frankie "I would put Moss in front of Shaw but not Carney'"


Agree 100%,my point exactly.

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The thing you're missing us that wings can't swap sides easily. Moss for Shaw isn't easy, and Carney is rightly 1st choice left wing. If Moss plays in the Cas game he is likely to face Eden on his wing.

I expect a similar teamsheet to last week but with Moss in place of Carney. Shaw doesn't deserve his place at the mo. His defence hasn't been great and ge's starting to drop passes as well now.

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Iv always liked Moss and think we have only seen a fraction of his talent for us? Sheens obviously doesn't fancy him as a player and as people say he is the man with all the experience so there must be a reason? I'm surprised Cas haven't took a punt on him as they have had Fullback issues.His speed is right up there with the best of them and like Dixon before him it would be interesting to see them behind a consistently dominant pack.Apart from couple of Shaw tries last year can't remember many of our wingers going full length in fair while?

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Quote: craig hkr "Iv always liked Moss and think we have only seen a fraction of his talent for us? Sheens obviously doesn't fancy him as a player and as people say he is the man with all the experience so there must be a reason? I'm surprised Cas haven't took a punt on him as they have had Fullback issues.His speed is right up there with the best of them and like Dixon before him it would be interesting to see them behind a consistently dominant pack.Apart from couple of Shaw tries last year can't remember many of our wingers going full length in fair while?'"


Think Carney had more than a couple of full lengthers especially in Cas

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After watching the Saints and Hull cup game its a shame that Sheens hasnt managed to instill that never say die attitude our neighbours seem to have.

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Quote: bishops finger "After watching the Saints and Hull cup game its a shame that Sheens hasnt managed to instill that never say die attitude our neighbours seem to have.'"

Them lot have plenty of Hull born lads who care. we don't

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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



Quote: EastHullUTR "Them lot have plenty of Hull born lads who care. we don't'"

Been Hull born doesn't mean anything and it's a harsh saying they don't care

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Quote: fun time frankie "Been Hull born doesn't mean anything and it's a harsh saying they don't care'"


I think that caring is measured by the effort levels as perceived by those on the terraces. It’s one thing to lose, but to lose whilst looking lazy, lacklustre or disinterested is pretty hard for the paying fan to take.

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Quote: REDEOD "I think that caring is measured by the effort levels as perceived by those on the terraces. It’s one thing to lose, but to lose whilst looking lazy, lacklustre or disinterested is pretty hard for the paying fan to take.'"

Absoloutely. I don't expect them to 'care' as much as us fans but it helps

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Under Jamie Peacocks 5 year plan, getting players to care wasn’t supposed to happen until year 4. Plenty of time yet folks, no need to panic, it’s all under control. Lol.

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The wizards sleeve is hiding from radio Humberside again I see. Either than or he got lost on his way up the stairs.

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