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Quote: barham red "Although the last few games have been disappointing and most of the season has been at best a bit of a foregone conclusion I just cant see the parallels with Leigh 2015.

The were blowing teams away and playing expansive exciting rugby, come the play offs when ball retention became more critical they blew up. The 2016 Leigh team were a more drilled side with lots of SL experience and that saw them through'"


That's a fair assessment of our 2015 vs 2016 sides. Though I think our side last year evolved as the year went on. Chase and Brierley out and Drinkwater in gave us that extra direction from half back. That and Ridyard showing enough form to keep Burns out the team is what ultimately got us through.

Personally I don't think we're as strong this year as last. Maitua or Worthington haven't been effectively replaced down our left edge, and we seem light in the front row with Weston's retirement and Acton's "enforced break".

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Quote: LeythIg "That's a fair assessment of our 2015 vs 2016 sides. Though I think our side last year evolved as the year went on. Chase and Brierley out and Drinkwater in gave us that extra direction from half back. That and Ridyard showing enough form to keep Burns out the team is what ultimately got us through.

Personally I don't think we're as strong this year as last. Maitua or Worthington haven't been effectively replaced down our left edge, and we seem light in the front row with Weston's retirement and Acton's "enforced break".'"


You're also going into it with a slightly different set of pressures on you. it'll be interesting to see how it plays out , I personally think Leigh look stronger both physically and mentally than Widnes.

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Quote: barham red "You're also going into it with a slightly different set of pressures on you. it'll be interesting to see how it plays out , I personally think Leigh look stronger both physically and mentally than Widnes.'"


Except when we play Widnes, they've beaten us easily twice this year.

yes, entirely different pressures this year. Though one point I've not seen made much, is we were garbage for large parts of last season. Was only when we beat Salford that there started to be some belief we could do anything. I'd say your first game against Super League opposition is vital.

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Hope the team have some fire in their bellies when the 8,s start and give 80 minute performances. The crowd can play their part and make it hell for the opposition, just hope the team do as well and give no quarter to the enemy.
COYR!!'"


The problem been, is unless the team performance starts to improve quickly, the mood among the fans is low and they will turn against the team instead of supporting them.
People will have someone p155 up their back and be told it's raining once to often.
We pay to be entertained and expect 100% commitment from the players, if they don't want to play, tell TS and jog on. There's no room now for passengers and sulks.

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I suspect the OP never saw us play under Gary Wilkinson.

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Quote: SirStan "I suspect the OP never saw us play under Gary Wilkinson.'"


Oh yes dear chap, many times, the wage bill for that entire team was less than some individual players (and coaches) are getting now...

And that team had no pretensions , had little top line experience aside from Whetu and Fletch and Gary wasn't an ex Aussie test coach...yet there was an enjoyment in watching kids doing their best for not a lot...as opposed to not doing their best for quite a lot...

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Quote: Peter Mannion "Oh yes dear chap, many times, the wage bill for that entire team was less than some individual players (and coaches) are getting now...

And that team had no pretensions , had little top line experience aside from Whetu and Fletch and Gary wasn't an ex Aussie test coach...yet there was an enjoyment in watching kids doing their best for not a lot...as opposed to not doing their best for quite a lot...'"

Rose tinted glasses ask anyone what they'd prefer winning the league at a canter as boring as it was or getting beat 1-0 at home to barrow

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Quote: Peter Mannion "We have certainly the biggest squad Hull KR have ever had in their entire history...(please feel free to check)..., this extremely over blown squad is full of SL players, in fact nearly 84% of them have played SL, and yet we have endured an absolute season of boredom and lacklustre performances..,

Mr Sheens, who co-incidentally oversaw the Australian team lose 2 four nations tournaments and is in possession of a 50% win record over his career despite having had every advantage possible, chooses to play as many props as anyone can fit into 17 players, 6 today in a loss to the admittedly world class Halifax championship side and to play safety first rugby even against teams made up entirely of players who only train every other Monday...

It has been like watching paint dry the entire season...for all his faults Justin Morgan would have had his team winning with panache by 80...

Either RL or Rovers are/is on a perennial down-slope never to exit or Sheens (and Hudgell/Crossland...the Larvin excitable/psychometric testing gurus,/Kris Keating signing/Scott Murrell disposing genius titbrains ) are wizards...discuss...'"


....and the Tarquin Feugo Award for Biggest Hissey Fit and Over Reaction Award goes to....

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Quote: Burtons Forearm "....and the Tarquin Feugo Award for Biggest Hissey Fit and Over Reaction Award goes to....'"


"absolute season of boredom"...

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Quote: fun time frankie "Rose tinted glasses ask anyone what they'd prefer winning the league at a canter as boring as it was or getting beat 1-0 at home to barrow'"



Agreed.

The last two years we threw the ball about all over the place and relied on "high percentage plays" to win games. Which is inherently inconsistent and look where it got us. We play a simpler style with Sheens that is more consistent in my opinion and when we get a bit of roll on we have played with speed and skill. Hopefully more to come in the middle 8's. If that is boring, so be it.

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Quote: fun time frankie "Rose tinted glasses ask anyone what they'd prefer winning the league at a canter as boring as it was or getting beat 1-0 at home to barrow'"



Winning the 2nd division against mostly part timers with an uneven advantage in terms of finance and salary cap spend is hardly an achievement that today's supporters will be telling their grandchildren...

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Quote: Peter Mannion ""absolute season of boredom"...'"

Like I have said before if you do not like it go watch some thing else like cricket or darts you do not have to watch rovers I in my 50 0d yrs of watching rovers have seen a bloody lot worse then this lot and a bloody lot better to nobody is forcing you to watch

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I like this peter mannion character

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If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle. Frederick Douglas:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_30596.jpg



Quote: Peter Mannion "Winning the 2nd division against mostly part timers with an uneven advantage in terms of finance and salary cap spend is hardly an achievement that today's supporters will be telling their grandchildren...'"


I think you've got a point, however, if Rover's are winning, I don't really care how.

This season HAS been dull, but I'd argue that's been more about the opposition's game plan most of the time.

Look on Bradford's board about Swinton yet again turning up with a completely negative attitude.

Against London we had a thirty minute spell where we got a great roll on and they just couldn't contain us, we would have scored serious points against any side we'll play in the Rubbish Eight's.

We play a percentage game, yesterday we were terrible. Sheens' game plan needs us up in the eighties for completion rate, if we can achieve that, we'll give Leigh and Widnes a game.

We certainly will not beat either of those teams with flair and pizzazz.

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If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle. Frederick Douglas:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_30596.jpg



Quote: Jake the Peg "I like this peter mannion character'"


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