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"Look not for correlates of success that confirm conventional wisdom, for these are weak associations, but identify independent predictors that show the path to glory and power, using regression analysis, Amen"

The famous Greek philosopher Gaius Petronius wrote :-
"We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we were beginning
to form up into teams, we would be reorganized. I was to learn later
in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing;
and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress
while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization."

Maybe those teams who have benifactors with deep pockets should consider this before making wholesale changes to playing staff.
P.S.Mr Peacock,
Nero ordered him to commit suicide for been a trouble causer !!

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Quote: Mild Rover "

Look not for correlates of success that confirm conventional wisdom, for these are weak associations, but identify independent predictors that show the path to glory and power, using regression analysis, Amen.'"

Bingo. You could flog this to Jeremy Corbyn for 500k to use as his next election strategy. Then after your 10% spotters fee, donate the remaining 450k to the club for a marquee signing in the middle 8s. Sorted.

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Quote: SirStan "My thoughts too.

Anyway, how many pieces of lego can you fit up your bum?'"


You see, this is the sort of imprecise thinking that has led to relegation. Twoers, fourers, sixers? Those little ones that you use as headlights on cars? Without this information, your question is meaningless.

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Quote: Mild Rover "You see, this is the sort of imprecise thinking that has led to relegation. Twoers, fourers, sixers? Those little ones that you use as headlights on cars? Without this information, your question is meaningless.'"

My rectal Lego retention capacity needs to be reassessed now in the light of this. icon_biggrin.gif Meccano is much less complicated.

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Quote: craig hkr "Well I'd expect leeds to be top 4. Cas played great with huge injury list .saints whole back line injured for big chunks.wigan 8/9 first teamers out for whole season .Warrington will improve with great youngsters.catalans could be anything but had big injury list after looking like best team in league early doors. Widnes wakey and us had huge injury list.cant see there being another season quite like it. Not our problem now but I wouldn't be so sure hull won't be back to scraping into top 8 again like normal'"


Wishful thinking but wont happen

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When the Lego,
Fits the arrsehole
And the Sun,
Shine's,
From the East.

Then,
As Sun Szu,
States,
Make the Lego arrse,

Your weakness,
For it shall be,
Your opponent's,
Downfall.

Edited to circumnavigate the software.

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Quote: Mild Rover "You see, this is the sort of imprecise thinking that has led to relegation. Twoers, fourers, sixers? Those little ones that you use as headlights on cars? Without this information, your question is meaningless.'"

I seem to remember this issue being covered several times in off seasons gone by, wasn't it decided that the 2x2 was the iso standard, I hope so as that's what I've been practising with.

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I know threads drift off from the original subject but this has gone from realistic aims to shoving Lego up you ar$e in 2 pages icon_biggrin.gif

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After relegation lego is above our means. Stickle bricks up the trumper are probably more apt

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Reading the League Express is interesting. There's an interview with Hudge and he's claiming that there's been some 'difficult conversations' along the way with one or two players that we expected a bit more from. I believe that if you get us into this mess, you need to get us out of it, but some of the lads have started to run for the hills and look for the biggest payday.
Walker me thinks. But Mantellato, sio, thornley and Greenwood rumoured to be on the way out.
So after the good news of Blair and Lunt, it seems we're left with the dross.....unfortunately.

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Quote: Hessle rover "Reading the League Express is interesting. There's an interview with Hudge and he's claiming that there's been some 'difficult conversations' along the way with one or two players that we expected a bit more from. I believe that if you get us into this mess, you need to get us out of it, but some of the lads have started to run for the hills and look for the biggest payday.
Walker me thinks. But Mantellato, sio, thornley and Greenwood rumoured to be on the way out.
So after the good news of Blair and Lunt, it seems we're left with the dross.....unfortunately.'"


If we fail to keep Walker and Greenwood, plus we don't know about Tilse and Algood, and with Green already gone the pack looks very light.
I think T. S. needs to find us 2 great big Aussie grunters and J.P. to unearth 2 young developing stars of the future.
No pressure then!!

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Quote: Hessle rover "Reading the League Express is interesting. There's an interview with Hudge and he's claiming that there's been some 'difficult conversations' along the way with one or two players that we expected a bit more from. I believe that if you get us into this mess, you need to get us out of it, but some of the lads have started to run for the hills and look for the biggest payday.
Walker me thinks. But Mantellato, sio, thornley and Greenwood rumoured to be on the way out.
So after the good news of Blair and Lunt, it seems we're left with the dross.....unfortunately.'"


But it's Hudgell & Co that have got you into this mess through pi$£ poor recruitment and cap management.

The five you mentioned all had good seasons. They're only really accountable for their own performances, why should they sacrifice earnings or playing at a higher level because other people failed to do their bit?

I admire those like Lunt & Blair who are staying on and prepared to battle next year to get Rovers back up, but I don't think those who decide to leave should be vilified for doing so.

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Hessle Rover. I wouldn't call Thomas Minns dross, especially as it's rumoured we will keep him. However, if he goes to another club, James Greenwood will be a big loss IMO.

Reckon Cockayne, Clarkson, Donaldson, Marsh, Mulhern and Shaw will be retained. Ideally, we need Tilse and Mantellato to stay. Lunt, Lawler and Blair are reconfirmed along with last year's academy debutants.

Leavers:

Green's gone. Boudebza terminated. Sio, Thornley, Walker and Kelly all wanted elsewhere and if they can get a good gig and more money, then good luck to them. Campo should and will retire. Larroyer, Horne, Salter, Dixon and Allgood should also be leaving as none are really good enough on last year's showing.

Reckon 9 or 10 new faces are now required for next season.

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That was a bit of a sweeping statement on the whole team. But I wasn't thinking of Minns when I wrote that. Now he is one id keep.
Looks like Lawler has penned a deal to. That's also one I'm happy to keep.

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Quote: DGM "But it's Hudgell & Co that have got you into this mess through pi$£ poor recruitment and cap management.

The five you mentioned all had good seasons. They're only really accountable for their own performances, why should they sacrifice earnings or playing at a higher level because other people failed to do their bit?

I admire those like Lunt & Blair who are staying on and prepared to battle next year to get Rovers back up, but I don't think those who decide to leave should be vilified for doing so.'"


Aye, it is pretty simple.

Players that want to stay or join have to convince the club that they will provide value, relative to realistic alternatives.

Players that the clubs wants, it has to convince that it is an attractive employer, relative to realistic alternatives.

Demanding players stay on as penance might be a useful way for some people to vent, but as a retention tool it is a chocolate teapot (or sticklebrick dildo, or whatever).

What works is what matters. Moral indignation won't.

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