That's how I see it.smugness factor 10 in black n white mates makes our crud season more bleak

It doesn't matter to me how Hull are doing I'm more concerned about my own team and its predicament I must say Hulls board has got really boring since they started doing well

Two and a half years ago I asked Remington Mike (one "M"icon_wink.gif what he was about, face to face.

He emailed me the day after to say he'd never received the emails that I'd sent.

My MP, who absolutely hates me and knows I'll never vote for him at least has the good grace to tell me to feck off every once in a while.

Hull KR chairman Neil Hudgell responds to criticism after derby defeat


1- Reality check

Over the last 10 years of Super League our average league position has been 8th place, this has been broadly matched by our support base, facilities and financial health. All things being equal we are sitting at or about our natural level for now

However, the last set of RFL benchmark reporting showed that our off field operation has just risen to around 6th in the league. Clearly we would like those two metrics to rise in tandem. Whilst we made a profit last year on the back of Wembley, we forecast a significant loss again this year, next year and the year after. The directors will continue to underwrite this, see point 9.

Me.....11th and safety in SL year 1 was a huge achievement and all that mattered for a promoted club. 7th, 4th, 7th & 7th in the 4 years that followed was in hindsight was impressive. We sacked the coach that achieved this and since then it's been 10th, 8th, 10th and whereever we finish in the bottom 4 this year. We may average 8th thanks to the Morgan years but it's 8th and falling.



2- Goldfish bowl

I'll say it again, Hull is a goldfish bowl for media scrutiny, and consequently there is an artificial pressure to over perform beyond realistic expectations. Our city rivals performing well only serves to crank up those expectations. When these are not met this leads to intense criticism fuelled by deep seated disappointment at being second best.

Me......If Hull win SL this year good luck to them being down below them isn't all that different from being down below Leeds or Wigan.


3- The unpalatable truth

Credit where it's due, Hull FC have recruited better than anyone this year. Thursday night showed passion and enthusiasm is not enough when one side plays to its potential. I believe their success is based mostly on changes made 2/3 years ago which are now bearing fruit. It is not that long ago they were feeling the pain we are currently experiencing.

Me........We are simply 2/3 years along the same path as Hull?


4- Over achieving

We want to over achieve, being at our natural level doesn't excite me. We are having to make changes now, for a better future. Step one was bringing in Jamie Peacock, he is only just over six months into his role and the changes he is making are not quick fixes, step two is appointing an experienced and respected coach.

Me..... We are having to make changes now? What changes? Everyone and his dog who has felt the slightest itch from the fear of relegation has reacted ..we haven't.



5- What's gone wrong?

We aren't where we want to be this year. Why? In my opinion, 30% was an awful pre-season, 40% is on-going injuries to a large number of players, and within that group many of our key players, 20% historic poor long term recruitment, 10% bad luck.

Me.....players win matches. So IMO it's 95% recruitmnet, 4% injuries and 1% bad luck.



6- What we need to do to correct this?

A more experienced coach who can extract more from the current playing group. Better value for money from recruitment. Continuing investment in youth. I was delighted to hear the City of Hull Academy got an 'Outstanding' grading yesterday by the way, we will bear the fruits of that in the medium to long term.

Me..........The one thing good coaches have in common is good players. Whoever the next coach is he doesn't have good players so he will probably become a bad coach.



7- Life in the Qualifiers

Being in the "middle 8s" is a huge handicap in recruitment at all levels. It is difficult to commit both ways until we can 100% guarantee our league position. The current system favours the established elite and does nothing to spread the talent or strengthen the 12 as a collective.

Me..... Neil you wanted one up one down, if you'd had your way we'd be in an even more precarious position right now.



8- No news isn't always no news!

I'm hearing a lot of criticism for the 'lack of positive news', we're not going to create news or spin for the sake of it, we're an honest club, we don't live on hype or false promises. We have an "in principle" deal agreed with a new head coach, much like player recruitment, when our league position is 100% confirmed our full plans for 2017 will become apparent.

Me......why can Hudds appoint a new coach ready to commit here & now?



9- Healthy debate welcomed

On a personal level, I am first and foremost a supporter. I am under no obligation to continue underwriting Hull KR. I am quite happy and wiling to engage and indeed welcome meaningful debate with fellow supporters. I won't though take personal abuse or have my motives questioned. Especially by the handful of empty vessels who have done nothing constructive other than throw out gratuitous insults. My message to them is that the jobs yours any time you want it, but I'm sure you won't, as you haven't the balls to do it

Me....Those abusing Neil and players like Robbie Mulhern are vermin pure & simple.


10- And finally

We need you more than ever! - We are now in the Super League Qualifiers again and in a fight for our Super League future. Now more than ever we need our support behind us, which again it was right to the bitter end on Thursday night. Let's turn up in numbers on Thursday against Leeds and show the doubters we're ready to fight for every last point to secure that extra home game in the 'middle 8'.

Me.....agreed.

I can't believe how we all think JP is the answer with his 5 year plan. What other business organisation would employ an unproven administrator with no previous experience on a +£100k contract? I just don't get it. Great player, yes. business degree, yes. Previous demonstrable experience, No.

JP has been doing the recruitment, he was involved in pre-season, and he is a massive reason the season has gone as it has. I'm not for one minute saying sack him, I would just like to hear his thoughts on what has gone wrong. After all, the coach he wanted sacking seems to be doing a reasonable job at another club.

I assume Jamie told you the details of his salary?

Stan everybody knows everybody's wage FACT

The best statement is always made in the heat of the moment.When you have time to think,it always comes up rose's..

Aye, and in the he heat of the night none of us wanted to play you bunch of s.

When you look at chairman's of clubs there is huge range of reasons for being there.some business some love of club. Hudgell can't be doubted.i saw him on Wembley way shaking hands with fans and ushering ladies in to stadium.that man is as genuine as it comes.davy at hudds and hudg and rob are shrewd money men yet still underwrite a huge risk..I'd like to think I'd do the same in their position but it shouldn't be took for granted.without them we'd be shafted

When you look at chairman's of clubs there is huge range of reasons for being there.some business some love of club. Hudgell can't be doubted.i saw him on Wembley way shaking hands with fans and ushering ladies in to stadium.that man is as genuine as it comes.davy at hudds and hudg and rob are shrewd money men yet still underwrite a huge risk..I'd like to think I'd do the same in their position but it shouldn't be took for granted.without them we'd be shafted

Just read pmh post and can't argue but that looks likely to be million pound game I wouldn't be surprised if we were the away team

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