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| Clint Newton.
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| Quote: roopy "Clint Newton.'"
WHY when did he become a coach ![ASK icon_ask.gif](images/smilies//icon_ask.gif)
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| Quote: cravenpark1 "WHY when did he become a coach
He is currently head of the players union.
He has had top level coaching since he was 10 years old, including playing under Bellamy and Bennett, so he must have picked up a few clues.
Also his wife, who comes from your neck of the woods I think, has just had a baby and might like to be around family.
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| Wigan - World Club Challenge runners up and SL champions 1998, 2010, 2013.
Leeds Rhinos - World Club Challenge Winners 2005, 2008, 2012. SL Champions 2004, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012.
Huddersfield - Current League Leaders Shield holders.
St Helens - One of the best squads in the competition, marked out as the most likely to win the competition. Numerous title holders and won plenty in their recent history.
So 4 games we have played so far and against some of the best sides in the competition. We have matched these sides for a large portion of these games and our most recent defeat to St Helens was only totally lost in the final 7 minutes.
Yes those "Tools" Craig has brought in are not brand new and have experience but as with any old and used tools they will be a bit rusty and have certain ways they like to be used. The user of those tools, and in this case it is Sandy, he has to work out just what works and what doesn't work with these tools he's brought in.
It is clear for all to see that our frailties are out wide, these in the majority are not new tools to the club but have the very same problems that Craig tried to replace down the middle. Money only goes so far and by improving the middle he's been forced to make do with the old backs that make poor defensive choices and have numerous brain explosions.
So what does he do to address this? He's brought in an international winger who in his first appearance made the very same mistakes our own squad members do, so is the problem the centre? My answer is yes but who is out there that could go to centre and fix us up? Do we have the finances available and under the salary cap to bring in two new centres that can add to our defence while not losing anything going forward?
If we can do that then there is no need to replace the coach because the problem can be fixed by bringing in new 'tools' if we can't bring in new players then again why replace the coach? Justin Morgan couldn't improve the defence out wide what is to say any other coach could improve it with this crop of players?
The one question a board should ask is, do the players want a new coach for the rest of the season? Sit down one to one or have a ballot box for them all to cast their vote secretly. If the players are happy to stick with the devil they know and are prepared to take the fall themselves for their poor performances then I firmly believe we should get behind Craig and give the players the support they all need. If the players feel they'd be able to give more to someone else then I'm happy for the board to ask Sandy to leave and bring in someone the players feel is good enough for the job.
Craig came over with a reputation that I don't think he will have lost back in Australia. He's worked with some of the best in the business and they all rate him highly and would probably have him on their staff once more so I doubt he'd be without a club for long.
I don't think he will take us to be champions but I do think for this season at least he deserves to be kept in the role unless as stated the players need someone else to get better out of them.
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| What about the Castleford game were we had enough ball and field position to win by at least 20 points yet lost by 20 saying that I would give him to the end of the season he deserves that
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| Quote: fun time frankie "What about the Castleford game were we had enough ball and field position to win by at least 20 points yet lost by 20 saying that I would give him to the end of the season he deserves that'"
What about what we deserve (the customers who pay his wages)?
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| Should Sandercock leave, I'd prefer someone of experience to come in. I feel sandy has always had ?s over him due to his lack of front line experience. However, the thought of having James Webster at the helm sounds good but I see his next move as head coach to be in the championship. A good, realistic fit for us would be someone like McLennan or Simmons. Both have experience either side of the world and produce well drilled outfits, particularly McLennan.
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| Take Agar please.
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| Quote: fun time frankie "What about the Castleford game were we had enough ball and field position to win by at least 20 points yet lost by 20 saying that I would give him to the end of the season he deserves that'"
Lose one of the next 2 games and I couldn’t care less who deserves what, we’d become realistic bets for the drop and that can’t be allowed to carry on out of misplaced sentiment
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| I know what your saying Stan but this is his team it takes time to gel this amount of new players I'd give him at least half this season
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| Quote: fun time frankie "I know what your saying Stan but this is his team it takes time to gel this amount of new players I'd give him at least half this season'"
You are clearly a more patient man than me. No amount of "gel" will fix some of the fundamental basics that we have wrong in the team. I last saw us win a game on August 16th 2013, my patience is wafer thin. For those not fortunate/stupid enough to have travelled to Headlingley that night, it's the start of July since Craven Park witnessed a home win.
These type of statistics drive customers away and they find other things to do with their spare time. Most on here are institutionalized so we put up with the mediocre but the target audience, the ones with customer number 6001-8500 are not as daft as us. They want to be "entertained", whatever that means, I gave up on that a long time ago.
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| I'm still hoping that things come good for Sandercock. Not least for the selfish reason that we start winning ASAP. And I honestly don't think it is an entirely forlorn hope - yet.
Obvious choice, IMO: Chester. If he can put his knowledge of SL together with the best elements of Morgan and Sandercock, then he'd do well, I reckon.
Leftfield - Paul Deacon. He's been around winning cultures for much of his career. He'd command plenty of instant respect. I saw him give an interview one time and he was clearly bright and thoughtful. Harris will be closer to the Wigan job, and Wane might well do a few more years, so I'd think we'd be a decent option for someone like him.
But, y'know what? let's please just beat Bradford and Wakefield and so on, and it's one less thing to stress.
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| Bloody hell, I thought I'd accidentally accessed the Man Utd web site, talk about trying to undermine a bloke in his job.
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| Mark Aston anybody?
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| Quote: fun time frankie "What about the Castleford game were we had enough ball and field position to win by at least 20 points yet lost by 20 saying that I would give him to the end of the season he deserves that'" He is paid on results. Not on what you think he deserves.
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