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| Ok fellas i know when i'm not wanted...
But am i wrong...?
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| Quote: Larry Billey "Ok fellas i know when i'm not wanted...
But am i wrong...?'"
Yes.
You are wrong , DR Doomandgloom.
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| Quote: Larry Billey "Ok fellas i know when i'm not wanted...
But am i wrong...?'" Last time I checked Newcastle Knights and Saint Helens are not 'one club' just for starters.
So the answer is that yes you are wrong.
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| If Newcastle Nights were to emigrate to England and ply their trade in the ESL with the same squad and coaching staff, where would they finish?
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| Quote: Larry Billey "Ok fellas i know when i'm not wanted...
But am i wrong...?'"
You might be right, but I'm not prepared to throw Sandercock on the scrapheap after 13 games. As for his recruitment policy, we have thus far signed 2 ex Knights players, one of which will be leaving us at the end of the season, and another who wants a rocket up his 'arris. It's very common in our sport, and others for coaches to go shopping at former clubs. Paddy Kenny has made a career out of following Neil Warnock - watch him sign for Leeds over the summer. Nowt wrong with looking at players you know and trust already.
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30596_1286642206.jpg If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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| Quote: Larry Billey "Ok fellas i know when i'm not wanted...
But am i wrong...?'"
I'm genuinely glad to see you back, I think you add a bit of balance. This board (and I'm one of it's biggest culprits) can be over positive. We've had a number of years and I do think we're going in the right direction but we need to improvement to pull in more revenue.
I suppose it depends what you see Sandercock's role as, for me it's about strengthening the playing side from the bottom up and I'm more than prepared to give him the full two years to do that.
Cox had had very limited game time and was looking good up until an unfortunate injury, Taylor is building and could (come on BOD do the right thing) be a corner stone of our pack for years to come, Salter has not looked out of place.
No team brings through eight youngsters all at once and so far out of those three one can only be completely confident of Taylor having a good career.
Most of our signings were made before we'd got Sandercock.
I'd be interested to know what you think was a realistic aim for this year?
People will point to MacGuire at Wigan and Brown at Huddersfield. Wigan; Excellent academy that had finally stopped gifting it's youngsters to other teams, an assistant with a total understanding of the club and a bit of cash. Huddersfield; A team that had been building for a long long time, good old Uncle Ken happy to provide cash to get the likes of Brough and George whilst also tying players such as Cudgoe, Lawrence and MacGilvary down to long term deals, previously coached by Smith a coach well known for getting the correct structures in place (and also wearing horrible brown suits) and an academy that will probably bare fruit for years to come.
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If I had to chose a post to give a gold radio award to, It'd be this one.
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30596_1286642206.jpg If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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| Quote: Edith "If I had to chose a post to give a gold radio award to, It'd be this one.'"
It's like panning a river in mid nineteenth century California.
Mainly cack with the very occasional nuggett.
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| Ha, with that in mind, you look like the guy on the Golden Nuggets cereal box.
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| Quote: Edith "If Newcastle Nights were to emigrate to England and ply their trade in the ESL with the same squad and coaching staff, where would they finish?'"
South Wales?
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'when my life is over, the thing which will have given me greatest pride is that I was first to plunge into the sea, swimming freely underwater without any connection to the terrestrial world'
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| Was told by a usually reliable source that we will be shedding some high earners and replacing with a mix of youth and 'average' experienced players as the club will not be spending anywhere near the cap for the foreseeable future, they need to get debts down rather pronto.
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| Quote: rover49 "Was told by a usually reliable source that we will be shedding some high earners and replacing with a mix of youth and 'average' experienced players as the club will not be spending anywhere near the cap for the foreseeable future, they need to get debts down rather pronto.'"
I'm not liking the sound of that TBH.
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| Quote: rover49 "Was told by a usually reliable source that we will be shedding some high earners and replacing with a mix of youth and 'average' experienced players as the club will not be spending anywhere near the cap for the foreseeable future, they need to get debts down rather pronto.'"
I can understand the club blooding more youth in the future as this is the way forward for most Rl clubs, however, the part where you say replacing with average experienced players would not be as understandable and unlikely imo, as it would probaby be counter productive.
People will only go to watch a winning side or at least a side that shows ambitions, if the club were to suddenly adopt the above aproach then im afraid the clubs attendances and thus revenues would decline, wiping out any cost savings made by getting rid of the better players and substituting them with inferior ones.
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'when my life is over, the thing which will have given me greatest pride is that I was first to plunge into the sea, swimming freely underwater without any connection to the terrestrial world'
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| Quote: Seventies red "I can understand the club blooding more youth in the future as this is the way forward for most Rl clubs, however, the part where you say replacing with average experienced players would not be as understandable and unlikely imo, as it would probaby be counter productive.
People will only go to watch a winning side or at least a side that shows ambitions, if the club were to suddenly adopt the above aproach then im afraid the clubs attendances and thus revenues would decline, wiping out any cost savings made by getting rid of the better players and substituting them with inferior ones.'"
I never said I agreed, just what I was told.
If the club haven't got the money, what can they do, if we end up being a Salford or a Broncos for a couple of seasons, but come out stronger from a financial point, then it might be the only viable option as the BOD cannot keep underwriting the club indefinitely. Look at Bradford as an example of what can happen to a club and they have had 10k plus gates for a long time.
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| Quote: rover49 "I never said I agreed, just what I was told.
If the club haven't got the money, what can they do, if we end up being a Salford or a Broncos for a couple of seasons, but come out stronger from a financial point, then it might be the only viable option as the BOD cannot keep underwriting the club indefinitely. Look at Bradford as an example of what can happen to a club and they have had 10k plus gates for a long time.'"
I wasn't disputing what you said, i'm simply looking at it form a different angle and puttin forward my view as i see it.
If the club did decide to go down the route you mentioned, then as i've previously stated, it would be counter productive imo.
If we did a Salford or a London for example as you suggested, there would be no gurantee that we would come out financialy stronger, as ive' already said, crowds would probably diminish, some of the best young players like Taylor Cox may not want to stay at the club, it would be harder to attract good sponsors and as a result the club would be poorer imo, both financialy and from a player quality point of view .
With regards to the directors underwriting the club, almost every club in super league is in the same or similar situation as we are in that respect, however, this is why the club is currently in the process of building a new North and possibly south stand, it is hoped that this will bring in the extra revenue streams that will make the club more self financing in the long run and reduce or even eradicate the need for the directors to keep on underwriting the clubs debs in the future.
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