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During the Mason debacle it was established that because of contru (spelling) agreement, the non-fed list had been extended back to 10 (with 5 of those being quota players).
As far as I understand our current situation is this:-
Webster (Quota)
Green (Quota)
Dobson (Quota)
Clinton (Quota)
Galea (Quota, though actively trying to get a Maltese passport)
Macdonnall (Non-fed due to UK passport)
Withers (Non-Fed due to Crusaders going to pot)
O'Hara (Non-Fed due to Crusaders going to pot)
Paea (Non-Fed due to contru agreement)
Talupapa (Non-Fed due to contru agreement)
Lovegrove (Homegrown, confirmed a few years back)
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| Quote: General Zod. "During the Mason debacle it was established that because of contru (spelling) agreement, the non-fed list had been extended back to 10 (with 5 of those being quota players).
As far as I understand our current situation is this
O'Hara and Withers dont count on either list do they?
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| Quote: R.B.A "O'Hara and Withers dont count on either list do they?'"
Correct, I think. Room for 2 more, plus a quota player if Galea gets his passport. Would that make 14 out of 25? |
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Not enough. I want some more nations, multi cultural me.
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| Quote: Sandra The Terrorist "Not enough. I want some more nations, multi cultural me.'"
*Sways* We are the world, we are the children, we are the ones who make a brighter day, so let's start giving..just beautiful. Could you pick a lovely Gallic forward like Danny Divet please. |
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I am sure that Rovers have had a couple of players recommended to them from an emerging nation. Could be Norwegian? Give them a trial i say.
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| Quote: General Zod. "During the Mason debacle it was established that because of contru (spelling) agreement, the non-fed list had been extended back to 10 (with 5 of those being quota players).
As far as I understand our current situation is this
The non-fed rule and quota rule are entirely seperate. I might have the odd detail wrong, but I'm pretty sure I've got the principles right. Passports have nothing to do with the non-fed rule for example. It's the Cotonou Agreement, btw, named for a city in Benin.
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| Quote: R.B.A "I am sure that Rovers have had a couple of players recommended to them from an emerging nation. Could be Norwegian? Give them a trial i say.'"
That bloke out of Thor, hopefully. He was Australian, but Rovers have found a loophole whereby if you've actually played a Norsk god in a film, that counts as the same as a European passport. Cunning as a fox, that Mike Smith. |
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‎"They supercede individuals, they supercede the team and they supercede the club. Our club is a traditional, working class club and the supporters are loyal and passionate and to see them go away happy really makes my day." Craig Sandercock.:7063.jpg |
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I didn't think Misi Taulapapa counted on the non fed list due to the kolpak agreement. If that is the case we currently stand at
NON-FED(Dispensation/Kolpak)
(1) Blake Green
(2) Joel Clinton
(3) Michael Dobson
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OVERSEAS QUOTA PLAYERS
(1) Ben Galea
(2) Michael Dobson
(3) Jake Webster
(4) Joel Clinton
(5) Blake Green
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Correct, I think. Room for 2 more, plus a quota player if Galea gets his passport. Would that make 14 out of 25?'"
If we finish above you and stay in the play-offs longer than you next season, would that mean our official final Super League placing would be higher than yours for 5 years in a row?
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| Quote: Easty "I didn't think Misi Taulapapa counted on the non fed list due to the kolpak agreement. If that is the case we currently stand at
NON-FED(Dispensation/Kolpak)
(1) Blake Green
(2) Joel Clinton
(3) Michael Dobson
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OVERSEAS QUOTA PLAYERS
(1) Ben Galea
(2) Michael Dobson
(3) Jake Webster
(4) Joel Clinton
(5) Blake Green'"
Kolpak/Cotonou gets you off overseas quota, but the whole point of non-fed is to (effectively) close that loophole. So we need to add Taulapapa to the first list. If Paea signs too, then the list is full, with no room for MacDonnell. |
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| Quote: General Zod. "If we finish above you and stay in the play-offs longer than you next season, would that mean our official final Super League placing would be higher than yours for 5 years in a row?
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This is about overseas quotas. I'm on topic, you're not. Like a moth to a flame, I'm irresistible to you. But I know how fickle you are. First David Kidwell, then Kevin Moore, now Craig Sandercock. Each one justified as your ideal choice then cast aside as a new favourite emerged. Fickle, fickle, fickle. 
In response to your question, Mike Smith (who you are on record as saying "is possibly the best communicator Rovers have ever had"icon_wink.gif has already said it has to be 4th place (at worst), so obviously you will finish above us, as I couldn't see us finishing above Wigan, Warrington, Saints and you, nor Leeds, nor Huddersfield.
Allow me to get the thread back on track after your petty but obsessive derailment. A possible 14 out of 25 overseas players. Would that be the most Rovers have had since promotion? Good work if so.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Kolpak/Cotonou gets you off overseas quota, but the whole point of non-fed is to (effectively) close that loophole. So we need to add Taulapapa to the first list. If Paea signs too, then the list is full, with no room for MacDonnell.'"
I think you're wrong mate re the 2 lists being totally separate. I'm sure there's a total of 10 non-fed players with 5 of them allowed to be full quota players.
I'm certain we'll see Paea and Macdonnell sign. |
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‎"They supercede individuals, they supercede the team and they supercede the club. Our club is a traditional, working class club and the supporters are loyal and passionate and to see them go away happy really makes my day." Craig Sandercock.:7063.jpg |
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So we stand at
NON-FED(Dispensation/Kolpak)
(1) Blake Green
(2) Joel Clinton
(3) Michael Dobson
(4) Misi Taulapapa
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OVERSEAS QUOTA PLAYERS
(1) Ben Galea
(2) Michael Dobson
(3) Jake Webster
(4) Joel Clinton
(5) Blake Green'"
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No room for Paea & Mcdonnell and the rumour is that Paea will be announced tomorrow. I would have to guess at Joel Clinton being outbound. Personally if possible I'd scratch the Taulapapa signing and pay the kid off.
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‎"They supercede individuals, they supercede the team and they supercede the club. Our club is a traditional, working class club and the supporters are loyal and passionate and to see them go away happy really makes my day." Craig Sandercock.:7063.jpg |
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| Quote: General Zod. "I think you're wrong mate re the 2 lists being totally separate. I'm sure there's a total of 10 non-fed players with 5 of them allowed to be full quota players.
I'm certain we'll see Paea and Macdonnell sign.'"
Nope one player can 100% appear on both the quota & non fed list |
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