Tbf and not necessarily putting it down to coaching, Wheeldon had a very decent 2009. This year Vella has been fit more often, Clinton has arrived and Watts has come on a lot so he's not had as many opportunities. I don't think anybody thought he was going to turn into Jamie Peacock, but he's done well I think. He's unlucky not to be given a new contract IMO - ironically he's probably, to an extent, a victim of the rules intended to promote young British players. Still, he'll get a gig elsewhere I'm sure.

Dont rule out Wheeldon being retained just yet.

So this forced drop out cost Hull FC 46 points did it, and stopped them scoring a single point? So your effectively saying Craig Hall cost you the game....... I rest my case!

I would be disappointed to see Wheeldon go. As GML said, he had a great season last year and when called upon this year has been solid and reliable. I thought he was very good against Bradford and showed good pace for a prop when he made that break. I don't know why people say he's lightweight as he is at least 16 stone and hits as hard as any in SL.

Defensively he's not the best, his tackligs attempts at times are just lazy arms hung out for players to brush aside, the Bradford try after his break shows this tendancy perfectly.

Well all the times I have seen him I've never had an issue with his defence. IMO Lovegrove is the weakest defender out of all the props.

Please point out where I even suggest this cost us the game? Thought not. If a player is upset by seeing his coach display his frustration at him not being able to pick up the ball with no one closer than 30 metres to him then he's not got the mentality to play SL IMO.

Tansey?

No.... but what i will say is you must have thought everbody else had a mistake free game as no one else has come under criticism... ie Tanseys massive blunder which was in everyway as bad as Halls, if not worse for a future Enland full back.

If you don't think he cost you the game why hang the kid out to dry.....it's the Thorman thing all over again.The kid has no confidence, he's going to make an error as soon as he's set foot on the field, you could see the pain on his face when he made the error because he knew what to expect from the terraces. Again, didn't Tansey fumble a bomb with no pressure on him and force a goal line drop out..... oh, he can't be critisised, he's the future England full back...

I think tansey is more scared to go into and make a tackle then craig hall is.

I agree I'd like him to stay but I gather he's on quite a bit of money for a squad player we may have paid over the odds to get him in the first place, so I can't see him taking a pay cut to stay when he may have fielded better offers already.

Where have I hung the kid out to try? I just stated that the coach being dismayed by his error was totally understandable. There's a little bit of difference in my mind between dropping a decent high bomb to not being able to pick up a drop out with no pressure. Tansey is probably afforded more leniency due to his positive contributions being much greater than that of Craig Hall.

Watching him play nearly destroyed me.
As for Hall,Rovers fans could be right,Morgan may turn him into a tackling machine,who knows.
Nothing against him personaly,but in my case, I would not be bothered if he stayed or went to be tuthful.