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Thread is about Hudge constantly hinting at getting out.
He knows you have lost £££££££ every year for last 3-4 whilst he has been involved/in charge. He wants to be remembered for the Chairman who brought glorious SL to caravan park and now he is looking for a way out b4 it all goes 'pop' and he's still in charge.
He's looking to do a Tony Blair ie leave just as the recession comes.
Hudge the fudge has an ego and seeing you lose your franchise in 2011 may be too much.
Also why is he bleating to the currant bun about the finances in our game ?
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Standing up to the forum bully.
It must be working, he doesn't like me...i'm devastated: |
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "5 years of profitability mate. The best businesses prune as they go along to maintain financial progression year on year. Others just lose £1.9m over 5 years then ask for public money when their is no commercial business case for the 14,000 capacity they included in their franchise bid. A bit spoilt if you ask me. ![]()
At least our sponsors seem on a safe footing Mrs B. Perhaps you should help your own lot out consideing the seriousness of P&O's present position .....i suppose your club could always be taking their S.L. money up front again
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Wigan get more fans than us and their accounts are horrific. The harder you work, the luckier you get. ![]()
Maybe they took advice from their accountants and didn't include transfer values of their players 
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[size=150:1juz9zgo][color=#000000:1juz9zgo][b:1juz9zgo]HULL FC[/b:1juz9zgo][/color:1juz9zgo] and [color=blue:1juz9zgo][b:1juz9zgo]LEEDS[/b:1juz9zgo][/color:1juz9zgo] [color=yellow:1juz9zgo][b:1juz9zgo]UNITED[/b:1juz9zgo][/color:1juz9zgo] fan[/size:1juz9zgo]
[quote="Wellsy13":1juz9zgo]To us REAL fans, there's no better feeling than winning competitions. Getting to a final is next. Then a top 6 finish or semi-final appearance. Then I suppose the derby counts as the most important league fixture.
Us real fans don't look over our shoulder at our neighbours and do whatever we can to get one over on them. We look at the bigger picture. And this is the reason why Rovers are and will forever be considered a small club. Because their fans and board would rather get one over on Hull FC above anything else.
Quite sad, really!  [/quote:1juz9zgo]
SPOT ON!
A Hull KR fan about Billy Slater:
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| Quote: Bertie "At least our sponsors seem on a safe footing Mrs B. Perhaps you should help your own lot out consideing the seriousness of P&O's present position .....i suppose your club could always be taking their S.L. money up front again 
The truth of the matter is P&O, like many businesses, are having financial hardship. I'd be much more worried if it was the club going through it than the sponsors.
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'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_33809.png |
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "I think what you are saying is that Hull FC have cut their coat according to their cloth and Hudgell is now holding this up as best practice. ![]()
These arguments come to resemble those of the now departed SmokeyTA, in that they ignore the historical context. Rovers in NL1 had to go for broke (as exemplified by Widnes who in the end did go broke) to get up, stay up and get a franchise. There was no way to do that sustainably. I was surprised by the number and quality of the players we recruited for the 2008 season and that for me is where the debate might start. On the pitch it has paid off, but perhaps, with hindsight, knowing that there would be knock-on effects of a massive banking collapse and, possibly, the promotion to the PL of City, Rovers could have tried to climb the ladder more slowly. It is moot now, though. The question is should Rovers continue to try to grow (North stand, continue spending to the cap etc) or should they consolidate on what has already been achieved (wait and see whether the 2nd East stand extension brings in more fans, replace highly paid experienced off contract players, with promising youngsters (see Smokey, wherever you are - we listened!))? And it isn't easy because not gambling carries risk - stagnation, a perceived lack of ambition and a disgruntled fanbase reduced to amateurish schadenfreude.
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| Quote: Tarquin Fuego "Thread is about Hudge constantly hinting at getting out.
He knows you have lost £££££££ every year for last 3-4 whilst he has been involved/in charge. He wants to be remembered for the Chairman who brought glorious SL to caravan park and now he is looking for a way out b4 it all goes 'pop' and he's still in charge.
He's looking to do a Tony Blair ie leave just as the recession comes.
Hudge the fudge has an ego and seeing you lose your franchise in 2011 may be too much.
Also why is he bleating to the currant bun about the finances in our game ?'"
Thankyou for that very clear frame of reference and evenhanded analysis.
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| Quote: Matty_HullFC "Did your club not do this? ![]()
I would be more worried if i was employed by P&O .know of a few people loosing there jobs after years of working for them
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| Quote: hkrovers "I would be more worried if i was employed by P&O .know of a few people loosing there jobs after years of working for them'"
The biggest changes at P&O have been happening over the last 10 years. There are hardly any local lads working on there now anyway. My dad was made redundant by them a few years ago. |
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| Quote: Mild Rover "
Why would a lower cap be bad for the sport? If players earned 60 grand a year instead of 100 grand would it diminish the sport in any way? we may lose a small number of players to RU but that would be it. Players would just earn less (as they did for the previous 100 years of the game). The money just goes straight into the pockets of players and agents
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Why would a lower cap be bad for the sport? If players earned 60 grand a year instead of 100 grand would it diminish the sport in any way? we may lose a small number of players to RU but that would be it. Players would just earn less (as they did for the previous 100 years of the game). The money just goes straight into the pockets of players and agents'"
To play devils advocate again, why should we even need a cap? Why shouldnt clubs be able to run themselves properly as other businesses have to, within their means? |
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| Quote: Bertie "At least our sponsors seem on a safe footing Mrs B. Perhaps you should help your own lot out consideing the seriousness of P&O's present position .....i suppose your club could always be taking their S.L. money up front again ![]()
Remind me again who went to the RFL first, therefore they made the money available to all clubs?
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| Quote: Big Dave T "To play devils advocate again, why should we even need a cap? Why shouldnt clubs be able to run themselves properly as other businesses have to, within their means?'"
Reason number 1 ......
Wigan circa 1990's |
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| Quote: TKOAH "Remind me again who went to the RFL first, therefore they made the money available to all clubs? ![]()
I'm still interested to hear where the P&O facts have come from? Cant see any reference to them in the press.
If it were that our sponsorship did go t*ts up we have set a sustainable business up with multi-channel income anyway so i wouldnt be overly concerned. I'm more concerned for the employees that work at he companies struggling in the current climate.
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