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| Quote: very red robin "Ok as everyone suggests that the youth of today dont really give two hoots - how about bringing back Compulsory National Service?
Get them beasted and putting into line.'"
Problem with that is you tar all with the same brush, and as has been said it devalues great work the armed forces do and the people in them.
The way to deal with it is to punish people properly, not let them get away with the first 10 offences, scrap Asbo's as they don;t work, stop suspending sentences and make prisons a hard labour place to be. 5 years minimum for carrying a knife, 10 years for a gun. Police the benefit system properly and make parents control their kids froma young age.
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| Quote: barham red "Problem with that is you tar all with the same brush, and as has been said it devalues great work the armed forces do and the people in them.
The way to deal with it is to punish people properly, not let them get away with the first 10 offences, scrap Asbo's as they don;t work, stop suspending sentences and make prisons a hard labour place to be. 5 years minimum for carrying a knife, 10 years for a gun. Police the benefit system properly and make parents control their kids froma young age.'"
And watch my tax travel upwards even more?
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| Quote: R.B.A "Didnt watch the programme but anybody found guilty of serious offences against children should be sentanced to death.'"
agreed.
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| As a new father, if any pervert touched my son they wouldn't get the chance to hang them, I'd do it myself. Paedophiles don't deserve to breathe the same air as the rest of us and yes they should be hung.
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| as much as paedophiles and rapist turn my stomach i don’t think i could agree to the death sentence, if you kill someone for killing someone it makes you a hypocrite really.
the problem with the death sentence is that it is just about revenge really, but as the other post says i guess i would feel a lot different if i happened to me or mine.
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| So who gets to decide who lives and who dies?
Who is so perfect in their judgement and behaviour that they can make such a decision? Politicians maybe?
As we all know, no such person exists.
You may think Gary Glitter and people like him should lose their lives. But maybe the person who gets to decide doesn't like you much either.
Stalin executed 20 million people and thought he was completely right to do so. Back then he was the one who got to decide.
No man has the right to take the life of another even when it is done in the name of the state. IMO.
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| Quote: His Bobness "So who gets to decide who lives and who dies?
Who is so perfect in their judgement and behaviour that they can make such a decision? Politicians maybe?
As we all know, no such person exists.
You may think Gary Glitter and people like him should lose their lives. But maybe the person who gets to decide doesn't like you much either.
Stalin executed 20 million people and thought he was completely right to do so. Back then he was the one who got to decide.
No man has the right to take the life of another even when it is done in the name of the state. IMO.'"
So are you saying i and others serving/served in the forces shouldnt shoot anyone back?
And are you saying our forefathers were in the wrong when they stopped us all speaking German?]
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| Quote: very red robin "So are you saying i and others serving/served in the forces shouldnt shoot anyone back?
And are you saying our forefathers were in the wrong when they stopped us all speaking German?]'"
its wrong that anyone should be shooting
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Interesting programme, saw little bits of it but not the full thing. I'd take the 54% stat with a pinch of salt though, research has proven that people are more motivated to vote in this kind of situation if they have a strong negative feeling, the people that dont want to see a return are more likely to have not voted.'"
is that not a stat?
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| Quote: His Bobness "So who gets to decide who lives and who dies?
Who is so perfect in their judgement and behaviour that they can make such a decision? Politicians maybe?
As we all know, no such person exists.
You may think Gary Glitter and people like him should lose their lives. But maybe the person who gets to decide doesn't like you much either.
Stalin executed 20 million people and thought he was completely right to do so. Back then he was the one who got to decide.
No man has the right to take the life of another even when it is done in the name of the state. IMO.'"
Hopefully not the same people who deem a rapist or psychopathic murderer well enough to return to our streets only to commit the same offence again......and dont say this is rarely happens, as once is to many for the victim.
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| Quote: His Bobness "So who gets to decide who lives and who dies?
Who is so perfect in their judgement and behaviour that they can make such a decision? Politicians maybe?
As we all know, no such person exists.
You may think Gary Glitter and people like him should lose their lives. But maybe the person who gets to decide doesn't like you much either.
Stalin executed 20 million people and thought he was completely right to do so. Back then he was the one who got to decide.
No man has the right to take the life of another even when it is done in the name of the state. IMO.'"
Your argument is a fair one,but I will tell you this,if it was proved 100% that a peado had interfered with any youngsters in my family, I would pull the lever myself,no problem.
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| Quote: barton baird "Your argument is a fair one,but I will tell you this,if it was proved 100% that a peado had interfered with any youngsters in my family, I would pull the lever myself,no problem.'"
As we all would without a doubt.
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| Quote: His Bobness "So who gets to decide who lives and who dies?
Who is so perfect in their judgement and behaviour that they can make such a decision? Politicians maybe?
As we all know, no such person exists.
You may think Gary Glitter and people like him should lose their lives. But maybe the person who gets to decide doesn't like you much either.
Stalin executed 20 million people and thought he was completely right to do so. Back then he was the one who got to decide.
No man has the right to take the life of another even when it is done in the name of the state. IMO.'"
Should we be expected to be perfect in our judgement and behaviour in order to determine that a child murderer should die?
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| Quote: Bobbin' Along "Should we be expected to be perfect in our judgement and behaviour in order to determine that a child murderer should die?'"
Why should a child killer like say Ian Huntley have a right to life, just because some do gooder thinks it makes us as bad as them. We all know we are not killers but probably would kill if need be to protect our children.
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| Quote: R.B.A "Didnt watch the programme but anybody found guilty of serious offences against children should be sentanced to death.'"
Agreed, I'll also put my name forward to wield the axe (or open the trapdoor if the liberals got their way)
I'd also widen it out to a series of other offences
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