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[quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg



I thought you was going to put a picture of trent barrett up then icon_lol.gif

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all though i can see your point ash i honestly think the vast majority of this squad would be more than capable of been in the top 6 and also become quite comfortable in playing at this level..
i dont think HKR will see the top 6 for at least another 2 years but again i think if youd ask any sensiable hull kr fan and and they would have been more than happy to take staying in this division for 2 seasons.
the problem we have this season (and many have noted this in previous statements) is we have the disadvantage of been slightly behind in picking up players this year due to the grand final date last season.
i also belive we will stay upthis year just but again i feel we are at a slight disadvantage as we not be seen as a serious contender for the top 4 ,so again we will IMO not be able to attract top top SL players.
once the 2 seasons are out of the way i belive that players will be more willing to come to the club as they see it as an established sl team rather than a team destined to be battling all seasons against the odds and looking down the barrel of relegation.
theres going to be the odd 1 or 2 top players that will be mentioned as been targets for hkr ,imo we already have 3-4 top players that would be in the 17 of any in the top 6 at the momment.

id also like to add i would be more fearful of the future if i was an FC fan as an established team in SL for the past few seasons who had serious ambitions of finishing in the top 3 this season,its become apparent that this is not gonna happen as our team seems to have lost its way and are also struggling to sign any player at the mo never mind a super star.
paul cooke was is a massive signing for us but more important is a massive loss to you not only to the team but ur ambitions and confidence as a club..

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Quote: GJB "What's so funny about that? He's played there many times before.

Wouldn't dismiss that one! He won't be at Rovers next season, although I still don't think he'll be at Hull either. Hopefully, I'm wrong and he'll stay at Hull.

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Quote: Next Best Thing "1. Scott isn't mature enough as a player to oust Cooke at Five-Eighth. His elusive running will be exceptional at Full-Back and may be safer under the high ball than Cockayne.
2. Murrell & Lennon can play at Half-Back but also fill other roles, doesn't hurt to have a more versatile squad.
3. Front Row is an area we need to improve with a blockbuster but not many about. Our pack is getting better with every week and isn't so shabby. Underrated Hull lad Snitch will add power and punch to our pack.
4. Kirk Yeaman needs no introduction, GB Centre!
5. Keith Senior is still looking excellent even at 31 and is available at the end of the year.
6. Craig Fitzgibbon is a living Aussie legend, would cause havoc in Super League.
7. O'Neill is a superb player and one of the best, Gannon is good but doesn't punch holes the way we need, and Gallagher has played very well whenever called upon this season. Stanley is all that's keeping him out!'"

Murrell hasn't got the pace to play full back, but he is a very good player none the less.

The point about the Yeaman, Senior and Fitzgibbon is that they won't sign for Rovers, not how good they are. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

O'Neill, one of the best? I assume you mean in the Rovers squad and not in SL?

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Quote: Next Best Thing "1. Scott isn't mature enough as a player to oust Cooke at Five-Eighth. His elusive running will be exceptional at Full-Back and may be safer under the high ball than Cockayne.
2. Murrell & Lennon can play at Half-Back but also fill other roles, doesn't hurt to have a more versatile squad.
3. Front Row is an area we need to improve with a blockbuster but not many about. Our pack is getting better with every week and isn't so shabby. Underrated Hull lad Snitch will add power and punch to our pack.
4. Kirk Yeaman needs no introduction, GB Centre!
5. Keith Senior is still looking excellent even at 31 and is available at the end of the year.6. Craig Fitzgibbon is a living Aussie legend, would cause havoc in Super League.
7. O'Neill is a superb player and one of the best, Gannon is good but doesn't punch holes the way we need, and Gallagher has played very well whenever called upon this season. Stanley is all that's keeping him out!'"


Is he?

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Quote: ash4hullfc "He won't be at Rovers next season, although I still don't think he'll be at Hull either. Hopefully, I'm wrong and he'll stay at Hull.'"


Like you know anything. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: GJB "Like you know anything. I could say the same about you. icon_wink.gif icon_razz.gif icon_lol.gif

I'll bookmark this until next season. icon_wink.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: ash4hullfc "I could say the same about you.
Go nuts...

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We're coming to make some noise!:



Quote: ash4hullfc "Murrell hasn't got the pace to play full back, but he is a very good player none the less.

The point about the Yeaman, Senior and Fitzgibbon is that they won't sign for Rovers, not how good they are.
I assume you haven't seen his performances? You saw the game against Hull, he knocked on three times, possibly out of 5 he's knocked on all season but hey other than the three knock ons he was one of our top performers in that game.

Why wont those three want to sign for HKR? A SL team with ambitions, as a fan your expected to look no further than the end of your nose but as long as Rovers are in the SL these players will be looking at their bank balances and not a lot else. Imagine the convo with Justin when he tells these players that they'll be playing alongside two GB centres and an Aussie international second row coupled with the likes of Vella, Cooke and Gene. With that kind of a squad these players would be mad not to want to play in it!!!

Oh and since when has Wellens and Withers had pace? Yet they are regarded as two of the best full backs to have ever played in the SL over the past 10yrs.

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Quote: nick hkr "Oh and since when has Wellens and Withers had pace? Yet they are regarded as two of the best full backs to have ever played in the SL over the past 10yrs.'"

Wellens is faster than people give him credit for.

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Quote: GJB "Go nuts...'"

???

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Why no Ryan Tandy???

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'when my life is over, the thing which will have given me greatest pride is that I was first to plunge into the sea, swimming freely underwater without any connection to the terrestrial world' Yves Le Prieur, the real inventor of the aqualung:



To mount a serious challenge on a top 6 spot we should keep the following as first 17 players
Steels
Goddard
Cooke
Webbo
Vella
Morrison

Squad players

Cockayne
Murrell
Fisher
Chester
Netherton

Plus at least another 16 additions.

This is based onn the fact that it will take at least 3 to 5 yrs to achieve this and the majority of the rest will be to old and the likes of Tangles, Gallagher, Dyer, Ford, Ward are not good enough for the higher levels of SL.

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Quote: rover49 "To mount a serious challenge on a top 6 spot we should keep the following as first 17 players
Steels
Goddard
Cooke
Webbo
Vella
Morrison

Squad players

Cockayne
Murrell
Fisher
Chester
Netherton

Plus at least another 16 additions.

This is based onn the fact that it will take at least 3 to 5 yrs to achieve this and the majority of the rest will be to old and the likes of Tangles, Gallagher, Dyer, Ford, Ward are not good enough for the higher levels of SL.'"

Very realistic and if you stay in SL this year, could be a possibilty. Think you've been a little harsh on Dyer though.

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'when my life is over, the thing which will have given me greatest pride is that I was first to plunge into the sea, swimming freely underwater without any connection to the terrestrial world' Yves Le Prieur, the real inventor of the aqualung:



Quote: ash4hullfc "Very realistic and if you stay in SL this year, could be a possibilty. Think you've been a little harsh on Dyer though.'"


Problem is that Dyer and Goddard are good in defence, but neither has shown the ability to capitalise on any breaks that our forwards have made. I have said all season we need a couple of fast, strong backs to take on the opposition more affectively, especially when you consider the amount of sets we tend to get camped out inside the oppositions 20 metre (Salford, Hudds and FC) without crossing the whitewash.

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