Dodging the end of Gentle's reign and Radford's first faltering steps as a head coach. Possibly winning a Grand Final and back to back cups with Leeds. Bad decision whatever way you look at it.

You mentioned he was 30 when you signed him - I suppose that is possible if it was announced in spring 2012. But it was his 32nd birthday before he made his debut. And he turned 35 before he lifted the cup the first time.

Also, while I actually believe Gareth Ellis was completely sincere, it surely doesn't take a massive leap of empathy to realise that we might not always find Hull FC propaganda completely compelling evidence. Especially anything published in the hdm circa 2013, when the coverage became hilariously sycophantic.

Edit - just noticed it is the 'other' daily mail.

I'd have let it pass if you hadn't earlier ticked McGuire's clock over to 'going to be 35'.

DM is 3 and a half years older on signing for Rovers than GE was on signing for Hull. By using different dates for the comparison, it can be stretched to look like 5, but equally squeezed to look like 2.

McGuire is a good player and professional, so I expect he'll be fully committed. Whether that'll be enough for him to make the sort of contribution we hope for only time will tell. In any case, I don't expect his arrival to be transformative like Ellis's was (eventually) at Hull. But if we can get organized, and put the right players around him, he certainly still has the class. Those are some big IFs, but Sheens inspires more confidence than his most recent predecessors.

If I could be d I'd trawl through articles from years ago and post the one were he said he chose Hull for the extra years contract.The trophy talk was just guff that no one believed.You spin things expertly and you got to post your little picture,Reminds me of someone? I think there is 1 person behind the same 2 or 3 posters on here.Just to clarify I couldn't care less what an FC fan thinks of Rovers and would rather not read it on here. I'm all for debate and don't always agree with fellow supporters views on KR but I'm sick of the sly digs and veiled insults from Lord haw haw. Bore off

The articles don't exist which is why you can't find them craigy

Learn to use the quote button properly. A half back with a lot of medals is an old thing

U ok Hun?

Instead of all the Hull fans worrying about McGuires age maybe they should worry about how they are going to replace Ellis

There were a few around the time he was rumored to be coming back to UK. He wanted to go to Cas but Hull offered longer contract. I have a life so don't post articles dug up from years ago and what would possess anyone to post a picture of Ellis on here ? Wind up merchants that need to keep their opinions to themselves .The 2 new multiples can go as well

Phil lowe

Big Wattsy, he will play as many games as Ellis, but not because of injuries

Big loss is Ellis, but last season proved we can play and win with him.

Our pack will have more depth next year, is like to see Abdul at 13

I come on here to read about Rovers and Danny McGuire and we have Hull fans talking about who will replace Ellis. Some people really do have nothing better to do with their time do they Bore off, I want to read and talk about my own team.

I can see why you keep this walloper around, he's hilarious! Constantly makes a fool of himself but you've got to admire his tenacity. Albys CC medal not looking so impressive now? I think Danny has a couple of them in the kitchen drawer somewhere!

McGuire will always get a great reception when he returns to Headingley as does Ellis who would have signed again for Leeds , but Hull came in and offered a good deal .The Sleeve wont par over the odds and has a limit on the length of contracts to over 30s. Gaz Ellis was part of a great period at Leeds 2 SL rings