After watching the saints game last night it makes you realise at how far the quality has fallen in the top 4 of SL, they look awful (as do Wigan tbh) and yet are in a semi final spot.

If we bring in a 4 quality additions then with a good preseason there is no reason we can't look to the top 8 next year. No way are wholesale changes needed.

No, it was sometimes 5

I'm loving our wire moment. I'm sure hudgel lies awake at night praying for his own wire moment

I thought exactly the same. cas have been good but they've been allowed to be by everyone else being hopeless. I still think we have the best first choice team in the comp but we're hopelessly inconsistent. I don't think it would take much to get into next years top 8 but you do need 3 or 4 quality additions to your pack which is where the real difference is made

Agree absolutely St Helens game last night was awful, it seems that the overall standard of SL is falling compared to 10-15 years, ago. our 2018 squad needs a strong wide running second rower, another top class centre, bulldozing prop forward. As to the standard of SL i agree with the statement made by Tony Smith a few days ago.

Agreed re standard of SL. IMO some of the reasons are;

Value of the AUS$ vs GBR£
Much larger Aus salary cap
Shallower player pool here
Poorer standard of refs
Coaching & culture of playing for penalties/messing about in the ruck

Lovely stuff... Danny boy did the business against you again. Simply lovleh

Yeah, will be good for us to rack up 6+ wins against him in the next couple of years

Another Jake post that will bite him on the bum

Probably as likely as the easy eight points you all were looking forward to the in the first season last time we won promotion.

don,t you just love it rovers back in super league bring it on I say,people who don,t look forward to the derbies must be mad,

There were/are many fc fans who were very happy KR not in Superleague and also City relegated as they were only pro team in city at top level in sport. (Ice hockey down the gurgler since Geraghtys Hawks).like it was for a decade or so before.If honest I'd like to see FC have a little time in lower leagues but looks unlikely in short term, not from a blind hatred of them just to bring a few or their fans down to Earth. For all that you can't beat derby day.No predictions from me.Just glad to be there

First time for everything I guess

Not me, I've been a city fan for 40 years. happy to see you lot relegated so you can remember your place in the pecking order though

There is no pecking order. Anything could happen this coming season