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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



Quote: barham red "We looked like a side getting to know each other versus a side that has been together a long time. Barring the 15 minutes across ht we didn't look like a team playing a team a division apart and if anything looked better than last year.

Give it a month or so and think we'll be pretty good. Was impressed with our warm up too, no sign of aimless arm flapping and looked pretty intense. Overall I can see a difference already.'"

I agree with that compare this years pre season to last years and it's a world of difference

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very little in it despite scoreline bombed 2 tries, and a couple of daft tries from leeds ie tap on a penalty no one there and a loose pass that fell kindly otherwise nip and tuck leeds looked better than last year but I thought we also were slightly better moss looked the part 2nd half. bad missed tackle by Jason Abdul for opening try needs to do better in middle 8s

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I went last night with my Rhinos mate and stood with my Rovers hat and scarf in the middle of their South Stand just to the right of the half way line. I like a walk on the wild side, but all I got was some good natured stick last night and some favourable impressions of our side. I suppose it was a pre season testimonial game, it was a supportive Rugby League crowd and we are a division down this year so that obviously helped.

First half we played well at a quick tempo. The try before half time was flukey. Rhinos fans were impressed at our defensive line speed and attacking intensity. We were making over 10 metres every play, but our execution was crap in their 20.

Half time. I know I always pee myself seeing our Hull KR dancers undertaking shamateurish and poorly timed routines at home games, but on the evidence of last night we are well ahead of those Rhino lasses, who were beyond pants.

Second half and Leeds upped their intensity, we switched off, lost our intensity, dropped off tackles and lost composure and concentration and went 24-4 down in the blink of an eye. Rest of the game was a bit aimless tbh, although we kept squandering opportunities in the final 20. I thought Kieran Moss was impeded jumping for the ball for the Keinhorst try, but will have to look back on Hull KR.TV.

My man of the match was Donno. Jamie Ellis was good too. Everybody else OK only. Leeds looked better last night than they did at any time last season and their new hooker Parcell looks a good acquisition.

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How did Salter look in the second row?

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Quote: rover 2000 "very little in it despite scoreline bombed 2 tries, and a couple of daft tries from leeds ie tap on a penalty no one there and a loose pass that fell kindly otherwise nip and tuck leeds looked better than last year but I thought we also were slightly better moss looked the part 2nd half. bad missed tackle by Jason Abdul for opening try needs to do better in middle 8s'"



rubbish. once leeds upped it they were a country mile better, as they should have been.
however rovers impressed in parts and I hope you come straight back up.
good luck for the season

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Quote: Dudley "How did Salter look in the second row?'"

Pretty anonymous. He played about 15 mins, Dud. Like everyone else in our side, he wasn't able to stop Garbutt and Singleton and the Leeds offloading game.

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Quote: robinrovers10 "A very good assessment, and accurate, the most important one for me and most fans I talk to is the desire one. Ive watched Rovers for long enough now so really appreciate it when the team play with desire, it is evident when this happens, on Sunday when we played with desire FC dropped ball, kicked badly and missed tackles, this because we hunted in packs and it looked like they were playing for each other.

Really looking forward to every game this season. I think it`ll be like the season we finished 4th, plenty to look forward to!!'"

you only played fc b team you got hammered by leeds a team

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Quote: Pickering Red "Pretty anonymous. He played about 15 mins, Dud. Like everyone else in our side, he wasn't able to stop Garbutt and Singleton and the Leeds offloading game.'"

Could only listen from time to time at work, and much as I wanted him to be a success you didn't hear him mentioned much. Think he'll struggle for game time this year unfortunately.

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Quote: tad rhino "rubbish. once leeds upped it they were a country mile better, as they should have been.
however rovers impressed in parts and I hope you come straight back up.
good luck for the season'"

Better - yes. Country mile - nah. More like country 5 yards.

Leeds looked like a team who had played together for a long time and their systems showed that. Defensively solid too. Burrow and Garbutt a class apart and Golding excellent at Fullback.

Hull KR a team of strangers getting to know one another equating to below par execution.

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Quote: tad rhino "rubbish. once leeds upped it they were a country mile better, as they should have been.
however rovers impressed in parts and I hope you come straight back up.
good luck for the season'"
you must have been in the cricket stadium the game I watched was pretty even baring the odd thing as mentioned

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Quote: Razor "you only played fc b team you got hammered by leeds a team'"
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Quote: Razor "you only played fc b team you got hammered by leeds a team'"


As sharp as we've come to expect from you there Razor.

I assume that the distinction between hammering and merely playing a team lies at ~25 points then? #BlameJordanAbdull.

But here's the thing: while there have certainly been worse teams in SL than those Rovers fielded in recent years, there came to be a feeling, IMO, that we were never far from a pratfall. I'd list them, for me it'd be cathartic, but I know others users prefer to look forward without picking at the scabs, so I'll leave it. To say they were numerous is sufficient.

So for now we're happy just for signs that a corner has been turned. A normal preseason, with performances in friendlies that don't fill us with foreboding. A fixture list we can look at with anticipation rather than apprehension. A coherent recruitment policy. A derejection (new word) of loan signings. Desire and all that other stuff that I have come to value if not completely understand in recent seasons.

It might not last, but so far no nasty surprises.

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Quote: rover 2000 "you must have been in the cricket stadium the game I watched was pretty even baring the odd thing as mentioned'"



really? pretty even? you hardly got out of your half in the second half d040.gif
scoreline was a hammering but doesn't reflect the game? crackers

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Quote: tad rhino "really? pretty even? you hardly got out of your half in the second half
Wembley was a hammering, there was certainly a gulf in class that day. However I would disagree with the term hammering for last nights game. Leeds were certainly the better side and in all fairness that is not something that surprised me, it is obvious to all who watch RL that last season was abnormal in terms of what we expect Leeds to do, the loss of key players through either retirement or injury combined with the difficulties of finding a stable training base certainly hit you and was reflected in your results and subsequent league position. From my point of view the Leeds of last night was back to a solid defence with the ability to punish any mistakes that the opposition makes. The defensive pressure that you put on Rovers caused the mistakes that were converted into points. In contrast Rovers were unable to do the same, partly I believe through inexperience of both the majority of our players and of playing together. In reality there will be many SL teams who will be leaving Leeds on the wrong end of a much worse scoreline. Obviously just my opinion but I would certainly not expect to be meeting Leeds in the middle 8's if we are fortunate to get there.

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Quote: tad rhino "really? pretty even? you hardly got out of your half in the second half Obviously you disagree with Rover 2000, Tad. Keep it real though.

Yes, you were the better team in the second half only. You defended very well throughout. You were well worth the win and it was good to see Leeds rediscover their 2015 mojo.

However, the scoreline doesn't really reflect the difference between the teams, which I expected would be more heavily weighted in your favour. Our unfamiliarity with one another, our lack of concentration, your ability to punish errors, the luck of the bounce, a sublime but flukey Joel Moon pickup from a crap pass and a dodgy refereeing decision to disallow us a try from a flat pass were the reasons.

Hardly the dry bumming of Wembley 2015, but after your 4th try 5 minutes into the second half, the game was over and you were able to relax.

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