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Quote: Staffs FC "Obviously Hudgell can and will say what he likes and quite rightly so.
Whether or not outing some no-name agent for 'talking BS' is more benficial to KR (and therefore its fans) than preventing a situation where some KR fans become openly hostile to one of their key players during an important run-in (it's already happening in Twitter land) - well that's just a judgement call I suppose.'"

I'll again say that a 'no comment' statement was what you do if you want to keep it quiet.
If that had happened that I very much doubt that NH would have said anything.
You seem to be missing or avoiding this key point. The reason for this is down to you but calling NH bitter for clarifying Micky and his agents untruths is a little silly.

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Quote: Hessle Roader " The manner of the move leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth and is not the right way to do things. '"


It was never going to be easy and I can't see that Hull have done anything particulalry wrong. You've signed the best OOC prop (arguably this years overall best prop) in the competition and some point you'd want to announce to sell tickets for next year.

I agree with a lot of what Mild Rover has said about Mathers, but agents work for their clients, not the clubs and he's got his client a better deal than the one he's currently on at a club that's on the rise. I'm disapointed but if Rovers had wanted him to stay they should have offered him more money or alternatively stopped gobbing off in the media about how potentially unstable the club is.

If my employer kept making veiled references to the fact they might be in serious trouble then obviously I'd be loking for another job.

Quote: Hessle Roader " I've got to say in Rovers' defence that they have unearthed some real gems for us in McDonnell and Paea and if CS can find us any more, it will be much appreciated.'"


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Quote: barham red "I never said it would

If the reports are true and I assume we are saying they are now then he did state untruths.
He said Mickey was going back to oz to look for NRL offers, If Sl is so unstable why sign a SL contract a day or two later. I'm not criticising the move just the blatant untruths of the statement regarding his intentions.

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But the only people who know for a fact at this present time that Paea has signed a deal are Paea himself, his agent and the club that has signed him everything else is just hearsay.
It maybe that Paea's preferred option is an NRL deal but maybe like I say Hull FC have agreed with Paea to sign if he can not find an NRL team by a certain date, hence FC's statement they have a offered him a deal.

Think it has been badly handled by Paea's agent to an extent but Hudgell has just ignited something that wasn't even smouldering which I can't understand at such a critical stage of the season when trying to make the top 8. Time will tell if he made the right call I guess.

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Quote: Anakin Skywalker "I'll again say that a 'no comment' statement was what you do if you want to keep it quiet.
If that had happened that I very much doubt that NH would have said anything.
You seem to be missing or avoiding this key point. The reason for this is down to you but calling NH bitter for clarifying Micky and his agents untruths is a little silly.'"


I guess the 'bitterness' tag comes from the completely unnecessary reference to Peter Gentle and Hull FC in Hudgell's statement. I don't think that reference has particularly surprised anyone though.

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Quote: Anakin Skywalker "I'll again say that a 'no comment' statement was what you do if you want to keep it quiet.
If that had happened that I very much doubt that NH would have said anything.
You seem to be missing or avoiding this key point. The reason for this is down to you but calling NH bitter for clarifying Micky and his agents untruths is a little silly.'"


I'd have gone with - 'A few clubs have expressed an interest and we'll get back to you when we've an announcement to make.'

Technically truthful, shuts down the conversation, doesn't beg too many questions or seek to justify a situation you're (presumably) meant to be trying to hide.

But I'm sure MP is happy with whatever % he's paying Mr Mather. If it is a big deal he's secured for his client, it'll be a fair old whack, and I'm sure he's worth every penny.

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Quote: Sandra The Terrorist "
I agree with a lot of what Mild Rover has said about Mathers, but agents work for their clients, not the clubs and he's got his client a better deal than the one he's currently on at a club that's on the rise.'"


If he's got him a good deal, that is his main job.
But working quietly behind the scenes would perhaps be where he should focus his efforts.
That he's secured an attractive package for Paea at Hull - good work (not from our pov, but we don't pay his wages, as you rightly note).
The wonderfully detailed background story, that wasn't y'know... true. Well, I understand the intent, but that was some very poor execution.
He better be very good in the boardroom, is all I can say.

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Will Hudgell come out with another statement when Carlisle announces he is off to saints? Keeping your fans in the dark Neil

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Quote: Sandra The Terrorist "It was never going to be easy and I can't see that Hull have done anything particulalry wrong. You've signed the best OOC prop (arguably this years overall best prop) in the competition and some point you'd want to announce to sell tickets for next year.

I agree with a lot of what Mild Rover has said about Mathers, but agents work for their clients, not the clubs and he's got his client a better deal than the one he's currently on at a club that's on the rise. I'm disapointed but if Rovers had wanted him to stay they should have offered him more money or alternatively stopped gobbing off in the media about how potentially unstable the club is.

If my employer kept making veiled references to the fact they might be in serious trouble then obviously I'd be loking for another job.

You scoundrel, fop and parsnip nose, I shall see you at twenty paces at dawn.'"


Could you possibly make it after lunch. Now I'm retired I don't like getting up too early.

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Quote: hullovateam! "Will Hudgell come out with another statement when Carlisle announces he is off to saints? Keeping your fans in the dark Neil'"


Can you send a link to were carlisle said he's leaving due to instability and is going back to oz to assess his NRL offers?

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Quote: hullovateam! "Will Hudgell come out with another statement when Carlisle announces he is off to saints? Keeping your fans in the dark Neil'"
If Carlisle's agent starts making stuff up then yes he probably will.
However ATM I have heard nothing about this apart from this post.
Must try harder would I guess be my advice.

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May I just say it makes a nice change to able have a pretty decent discussion on a RL issue between both Rovers & FC without it turning into insults.

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Can you send me a link to Mickey Paea saying this? Just saying your chairman only obsessed because its Hull fc. Why isn't KC staying then when Withers not getting a new contract? Come on Neil...

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Quote: barham red "Can you send a link to were carlisle said he's leaving due to instability and is going back to oz to assess his NRL offers?'"



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Quote: hullovateam! "He's British
I know, I was making the point about Paea's agents statements .... its like care in the community sometimes on here.

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Quote: hullovateam! "Can you send me a link to Mickey Paea saying this? Just saying your chairman only obsessed because its Hull fc. Why isn't KC staying then when Withers not getting a new contract? Come on Neil...'"


There is plenty in the press from Paea's agent, think its documented enough.
I would assume KC isn't staying because we haven't offered him a new contract, just as an aside if you look back on the Scott Taylor to Wigan transfer it was fairly similar and pretty certain that didn't involve FC.

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