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Quote: major black "Can somebody explain, some people are saying it's ok to move to the KC for a year and save some money to pay for the renovations, but surely you'll still have a tenancy agreement and be responsible for the bills at CP even though your not playing there, hence two sets of bills.
Could this mean to move into the KC and make it viable you'd be moving lock stock and barrel and giving up CP.
Seems to me if you move in whatever the spin they put on it about renovation etc, once your in you ain't moving back out.'"



I don't think anybody is talking about it in those terms now. CP will either be developed or we have to look at other long-term solutions. A stop-gap might be handy under other circumstances, but it doesn't solve the problem we would have.

Quote: major black "I understand Hudgell's frustrations at the pace of progression.

However, he could have chosen to run the club at breakeven with a smaller squad for 2012 and 2013 whilst the funding intricacies of the development were being sorted and the stand constructed. The new 3 year franchises have been awarded and are supposed to allow clubs breathing space to plan properly for infrastructure improvements without the threat of relegation. It's a bit harsh to complain to the council about losing money in a year in which the stand would not have been ready anyway. Spend a bit less.'"


Benefit of hindsight, tbf. Running at £300k under cap would likely impact on performance and in turn revenue. You can plan as much as you like, but stadia only get built in RL if there is an injection of cash. There's a big difference between when and if. I doubt you'll be suggesting austerity as an alternative to Pearson's attempts to renegotiate Hull's tenancy agreement, btw.
Just one. As long as it is appropriately massive. icon_wink.gif

Refresh my memory, what are these substantial payments from the council you speak of?

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Delays were caused firstly by an error in costing the project by the local authority, leaving a shortfall of close to £1 million and forcing the tendering process to re-start.

Now, the Mail has learned that more than £2 million in European regional development funding is still to be secured.

This was due to the deadline to apply being missed as a result of the initial costing setback.


Not surprised Hudge is Edit-AS off at this.

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Quote: Mild Rover "Benefit of hindsight, tbf. Running at £300k under cap would likely impact on performance and in turn revenue. You can plan as much as you like, but stadia only get built in RL if there is an injection of cash. '"

Not at all. Capacity and revenue was already going to be constrained this year and it would have been reasonable/prudent in setting the budgets to anticipate a programme delay in the context of a 3 year franchise deal. Hudgell and Rovers have registered plenty of discretionary spend over the last few years, from a large squad with 11 overseas players to a week-long overseas training camp to automated turnstiles to Willie Mason cardboard cutouts. To then say to the council, (without whom there would be no Plan A or Plan B because of Rovers inability to get any other source of funding for an adequate ground) that Rovers are losing money and it's all the council's fault is warped logic even I would have trouble dreaming up. Pearson can do what he likes, we have no choice. He's transparent about having £60k left on the cap and has invested in a new training facility. Good lad.

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Quote: HFC Boy "I understand Hudgell's frustrations at the pace of progression.

However, he could have chosen to run the club at breakeven with a smaller squad for 2012 and 2013 whilst the funding intricacies of the development were being sorted and the stand constructed. The new 3 year franchises have been awarded and are supposed to allow clubs breathing space to plan properly for infrastructure improvements without the threat of relegation. It's a bit harsh to complain to the council about losing money in a year in which the stand would not have been ready anyway. Spend a bit less.'"


Exactly NH is the typical fan owning a Club. He has let his heart rule his head.
His overstreching of Hull KR financially will come home to roost.
How many more hand outs does he want ? £1million from Allam . A substantial sum from the Council which was paid in 3 annual installments and still he wants more !!'"


You appear to be praying for the demise of fellow rugby league club, therefore your opinions are those of a bellend and can be happily ignored.

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Quote: Sandra The Terrorist "You appear to be praying for the demise of fellow rugby league club, therefore your opinions are those of a bellend and can be happily ignored.'"


Full disclosure - I added the prayer emoticon when I quoted him (not in his original post), to rip the pee. Justifiably IMO.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Not at all. Capacity and revenue was already going to be constrained this year and it would have been reasonable/prudent in setting the budgets to anticipate a programme delay in the context of a 3 year franchise deal. Hudgell and Rovers have registered plenty of discretionary spend over the last few years, from a large squad with 11 overseas players to a week-long overseas training camp to automated turnstiles to Willie Mason cardboard cutouts. To then say to the council, (without whom there would be no Plan A or Plan B because of Rovers inability to get any other source of funding for an adequate ground) that Rovers are losing money and it's all the council's fault is warped logic even I would have trouble dreaming up.
I'm failing to see any distinction whatsoever. icon_lol.gif

What other source of funding is there for RL stadia? Nobody (edit - hardly anybody chef.gif ) funds their own, unless they have land to sell.

Logic and consistency is for science. icon_wink.gif
This is politics and the real world - what you need is a compelling narrative.

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Quote: Mild Rover "Just one. As long as it is appropriately massive.
Where you not given £1.5million by the council? NH wanted it one go .The council said no and payed it over 3 years.

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Quote: HFC Boy "Where you not given £1.5million by the council? NH wanted it one go .The council said no and payed it over 3 years.'"


Okay, I have absolutely no recollection of this. Is my mind going? Do you have a link?

Rovers posters the time may have come for me to take a seat in the corner, with a blanket over my knees - please help me avoid embarrassing myself (again). Did this happen?

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I know you know absolutely nothing about this but then again you are a man who isn't from here, doesn't live here and doesn't even bother going to his own teams games so I guess you would know the internal workings of the team you don't even support.

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Quote: Mild Rover "Okay, I have absolutely no recollection of this. Is my mind going? Do you have a link?

Rovers posters the time may have come for me to take a seat in the corner, with a blanket over my knees - please help me avoid embarrassing myself (again). Did this happen?'"


Simple answer NO!

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Quote: MrPhilb "I know you know absolutely nothing about this but then again you are a man who isn't from here, doesn't live here and doesn't even bother going to his own teams games so I guess you would know the internal workings of the team you don't even support.'"


Knowing stuff - setting the bar a bit high there for these boards!

Let's try to be friendly - and that isn't setting the bar too high, because I said 'try' icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Paul T - HKR "Simple answer NO!'"


Ta.

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