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Quote: WormInHand "I doubt it was "well before". I heard Mrs O'Meley booked the flights only a couple of nights before he went.'"


So Toulon made contact then are you saying icon_confused.gif:
In all likeihood contact / interest will have been at least a couple of weeks before hand.

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Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "Mason's agent will have had contact with Toulon well before the day Willie flew out to France.
You dont just get a phone call saying fancy nipping over tomorrow.'"

He'll certainly have had some prior contact, but it could have been a matter of days or weeks rather than months. In any case, speaking to a potential alternative employer cannot be blocked in a contract of employment and the RFL rules would only apply to other RL clubs. Any attempt to prove breach of contract is going to rely on interpretations of intentions rather than clear breaches. Could be very messy.

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Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "So Toulon made contact then are you saying I might have missed this somewhere, but has it been established who made the initial overtures? That might make a difference to how the situation is interpreted.

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Quote: Kosh "I might have missed this somewhere, but has it been established who made the initial overtures? That might make a difference to how the situation is interpreted.'"


Agreed.

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Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "So Toulon made contact then are you saying Err, no. Another GML wild leap to incorrect conclusion, there. I'm merely saying I guess discussions were at a very early stage at that point. Please don't put potentially defamatory words in my mouth. Ta.

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I know lets put it to bed and get on with life let the bosses sort it out we cant can we eusa_shhh.gif eusa_shhh.gif

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Quote: General Zod. "They did try to help him get a passport but that's not the point.

I'm not disappointed in the board for signing Mason because it was low risk. But I'm disappointed in the fact they appear to be absolving responsibility for the predicament the put Willie Mason in and that doesn't wash with me at all..'"


Totally agree General.., the only people who don't realise that Rovers come out of this affair looking like complete amateurs are the board and blinkered fans.....Rovers handling of , and stance over , the affair , has no positive connotations whatsoever...

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Quote: Mild Rover "Cooke approached Rovers.

Having defended his conduct in this regard, I can't now be very critical of Mason. I'd look ridiculous. Similarly, Hull fans who felt Cooke's behaviour was an outrage will no doubt take Rovers side in this case. Ever thought of becoming a defence lawyer? icon_smile.gif

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What are the chances that his Tongan passport suddenly arrives in time for him to go to the World Cup as a Tongan international??

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Quote: Mild Rover "Cooke approached Rovers.

Having defended his conduct in this regard, I can't now be very critical of Mason. I'd look ridiculous. Similarly, Hull fans who felt Cooke's behaviour was an outrage will no doubt take Rovers side in this case.
The two situations are very different. I'd imagine had Rovers been able to play Mason from the off, and none of this messing around had have occurred, then this probably would not have happened.

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Quote: WormInHand "What? No derisive shouts of ridicule from Rovers on this particular Mail understanding, then??

Where's Roverswall? He tends to lead the way with these cries of foul. At least he did when the issue of funds being a loan was being questionned...'"
I have a life away from this board.
If you want me to say 'the mail understands icon_rolleyes.gif ' then there you go.
Still banging that drum it seems so well done on that score, Thankfully I have at no point needed to use the HDM as proof and I doubt I ever will as they are known for just guessing and using the line 'the HDM understands' as its usual get out clause incase it is proved to be BS.

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Quote: hull smallears "The two situations are very different. I'd imagine had Rovers been able to play Mason from the off, and none of this messing around had have occurred, then this probably would not have happened.'"


£1.7 million over 3 years would likely have turned his head - and I wouldn't blame him tbh. Who wouldn't want to ~quadruple his wage? After the failure to get Galea off quota and until Mason's contact with Toulon came to light, Rovers did everything they could IMO. With hindsight they could have maybe tried to de-reg/move on Clinton, if they'd known that Tonga would stop issuing passports - but if Mason had then done a flit anyway that'd have been similarly embarrassing.

Cooke, despite being gagged, has dropped some strong hints as to why he wanted out at Hull. If Mason's justification is that he really wanted to stay, forgo the extra £1m+, but Rovers let him down, I'd be less than entirely convinced. As I guess Hull fans are regarding Cooke's 9 years, 11 months comments.

Not that Rovers didn't make a bit of a hash of it, but with hindsight even with a fairer wind we'd have got one season and maybe a fee at very best.

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Quote: Mild Rover "£1.7 million over 3 years would likely have turned his head - and I wouldn't blame him tbh. Who wouldn't want to ~quadruple his wage?'"

Your assumption here is that the offer would have been made even if Mason's move to Rovers had gone seamlessly.

I'm not convinced that comparisons to the Cooke fiasco have any value given the rather enormous differences in the two situations.

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Quote: Kosh "Your assumption here is that the offer would have been made even if Mason's move to Rovers had gone seamlessly.'"


Yep. Whatever, he was talking to Toulon while the expectation (albeit incorrect) was that he'd be able to continue at Rovers. Being Tongan, maybe he had a better feel for what was going on there. 1.57421875:5
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