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Quote: rover49 "Now that FC are making a profit, should they pay the bail out money back to the RFL to assist other clubs, after all, without it they would be in NL at best or even out of business.'"
how much do owe roughly? if they was to pay it back?

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Quote: garroway "how much do owe roughly? if they was to pay it back?'"


Figure varied in the press, but they had their debts cleared and a full set of players, directors and coaches thrown in. Probably in excess of a million.

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Quote: rover49 "Figure varied in the press, but they had their debts cleared and a full set of players, directors and coaches thrown in. Probably in excess of a million.'"


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Quote: rover49 "Figure varied in the press, but they had their debts cleared and a full set of players, directors and coaches thrown in. Probably in excess of a million.'"
i'm grateful now and glad it happened but a million quid is quite laughable when you think about it... just think most of the noddies at hull city earn that and more in a year for been bab!

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Why do I sense this topic turning into another rovers vs hull topic.

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Quote: Scott_HKR "Why do I sense this topic turning into another rovers vs hull topic.'"

Because we have made a loss.............why else icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: roversmad "Because we have made a loss.............why else
can you really blame them, look at all the gloating at rubbing of hands, expecially by Lilley when hull were financially in the same position, and i'm sure iirc with debts less than yours. and before you say anything, even though we joined together with gatehead, to stay alive, we didn't deserve it, and if we had gone out of business or relegated to div2 even so be it.

You would think that after all these years, clubs and the RFL would be able to be organise themselves to be in a position of stability, but they seem to be just getting worse, not better

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Quote: Scott_HKR "From a post on leagueunlimited. no idea where they came from but here they are anywaysSome nonsense in it, but the figures make for interesting reading

Not read the thread, and if its anything like the threads on this subject across a lot of forums it will be contaminated with a load of derision, disbelief or inconvenient-truth dismissal. All the figures I have checked out so far are accurate, though.

The limitation is that in some cases (e.g Wire, Hudds) there is a parent company and sometimes other group companies involved. Other than Bulls, few clubs present consolidated group accounts so you need to get all the group member accounts and attempt a pro-forma consolidation to get a more complete picture. You also have to be mindful of exceptional items, like the 7-figure profit arising out of the sale of the cricket ground in Leeds' accounts, which gives them a profit of about £1.2m but stripping out that item gives an underlying loss of about £200k (no big deal, btw).

I thought Hudgell was remarkably and encouragingly-forthcoming in what he shared on the finances with you guys.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Fully agree. Catalans has been great IMO - competitive team, strong local interest and support, but if London and Celtic were replaced by Widnes and Halifax can't say I'd be bothered. Wonder how much money's been spent trying to get London going over 30 years for what - gates of 3k? Time to stop throwing good money after bad IMO.'"

Two points regarding Quins...

1. The RFL haven't directly funded them, so there's no money to stop throwing.

2. Without a team in London there is no TV deal.

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Quote: Kosh "Two points regarding Quins...

1. The RFL haven't directly funded them, so there's no money to stop throwing.

2. Without a team in London there is no TV deal.'"


I need to see a doctor, i am finding myself agreeing with you in way too many threads. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Kosh "Two points regarding Quins...

1. The RFL haven't directly funded them, so there's no money to stop throwing.

2. Without a team in London there is no TV deal.'"


So, RL becomes unwatchable, skill less and boring, unfit for TV consumption purely because we would not have a London team ?

Ho many time did Sky broadcast from Quins last season.

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Quote: rover49 "So, RL becomes unwatchable, skill less and boring, unfit for TV consumption purely because we would not have a London team ?

Ho many time did Sky broadcast from Quins last season.'"

SKY isn't interested in the quality of RL as such. Neither is it interested in the quality of the London side. It is, however, interested in viewers outside the Heartlands and specifically which consumer groups those viewers fall into. Viewers in the south of England fall into more of the groups that SKY and their advertisers identify as key consumers of the products advertised. This allows SKY to sell more advertising and for a higher price.

Like it or not, the presence of a London side in SL is key to the deal with SKY.

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Wayne Rooney is apparently negotiating a new deal worth £170,000 per week, which is not far off nine million per year. Would more than cover all of SL's losses. 3.6416015625:5
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