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| Quote: Roverswall "No.
But I have said things in the past I havent meant and later regreted(Not saying that is true in this case).
So just because I say one thing in error that doesnt mean any other comments I make have to be taken In that same context (Again if Bens are).
You are of the opinion that because he said W that means that X+Y has to mean W.
That isn't strictly true, Neither you or me know that to be the case concusivley(sp).'"
I often say things I regret, I am renowned for saying it like it is, however I have never passed a racist or homophobic comment, it would just not enter my head.Clearly all the stuff on his facebook shown in the HDM did nothing to imply he is innocent, also his history does him no good, so on the balance of probability I would say he is a racist,like I said it appears he has no respect for fellow human beings, I do not get any satisfaction about this either, it is a sad state of affairs in this day and age.
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| Yet you hero worship a certain hull fc second row forward, now why was his debut for castleford delayed? Bens biggest crime in your eyes is playing for hull Kingston rovers, I don't recall you going to these length of posts for a convicted racist in gareth raynor
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| Quote: WormInHand "But how else can P......i C......t be interpretated?'" Only one way but it doesn't automatically mean he meant the other things in a racist way.
He may have done or he may not, You can be pretty sure but that is about as close as you can get unless you were in Bens head when he typed it.
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "I often say things I regret, I am renowned for saying it like it is, however I have never passed a racist or homophobic comment, it would just not enter my head.Clearly all the stuff on his facebook shown in the HDM did nothing to imply he is innocent, also his history does him no good, so on the balance of probability I would say he is a racist,like I said it appears he has no respect for fellow human beings, I do not get any satisfaction about this either, it is a sad state of affairs in this day and age.'" I agree but you cannot 100% know when he posted the other things on Facebook that it was meant as you read it, Only Ben can know that.
That was my point from minute one.
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| Quote: Roverswall "I agree but you cannot 100% know when he posted the other things on Facebook that it was meant as you read it, Only Ben can know that.
That was my point from minute one.'"
Fair enough, but on the balance of probability coupled with his comment which certainly was racist it does not bode well, nor does any of it meet the standard I feel should be set by our sport in general, well it is supposed to be set but a usual the RFL are spineless in acting to promote the ethics of our sport.
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| Phew after reading all the posts can we all call a truce agree to disagree an all that lol
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| Quote: MrPhilb "Yet you hero worship a certain hull fc second row forward, now why was his debut for castleford delayed? Bens biggest crime in your eyes is playing for hull Kingston rovers, I don't recall you going to these length of posts for a convicted racist in gareth raynor'"
Typical Phil comment.
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| Well that was nice while it lasted!
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| Quote: barham red "Not seen it but it wouldn't overly surprise me,
Playing devils advocate I could say talk of hanging extremsts is not in itself racist, assuming all people of a certain race to be extremist is.
I would have also thought that the term British Jobs for British folk is also not racist, assuming all british folk are white and of the same race is.
Blocking the tunnel is not racist, merely a comment on control of illegal immigration.
These are all generally views portrayed by one or other of the major 3 political parties in the uk.
As I said I am playing devils advocate and have no doubt anyone who uses language like he did has at best mild racist views and at worst is a member of the ayrian brotherhood.'"
The comments BB posted are almost spot on, except he said "f***ing channel tunnel".
His comments re extremists being beheaded/burned and stinking and ugly are somewhat ironic given that his own views are, of course, extremist.
There may be hundreds of thousands of people on facebook with similar viewpoints (the BNP got over 500,000 votes in the General Election last year). However as someone in the public eye - albeit not nationally - Cockayne was incredibly stupid to post such bilge especially when he's accepted over 1,000 "friends" on Facebook.
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "The comments BB posted are almost spot on, except he said "f***ing channel tunnel".
His comments re extremists being beheaded/burned and stinking and ugly are somewhat ironic given that his own views are, of course, extremist.
There may be hundreds of thousands of people on facebook with similar viewpoints (the BNP got over 500,000 votes in the General Election last year). However as someone in the public eye - albeit not nationally - Cockayne was incredibly stupid to post such bilge especially when he's accepted over 1,000 "friends" on Facebook.'"
I think there is the problem. When you type something in your own home with no one around you tend to forget that you are actually broadcasting to thousands. Facebook is and can be a nasty tool.
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "Not sure I agree with you there BR, when coupled with his comments it kind of gives a very dim picture. We also know that not all British folk are white and we are very much a multicultural nation, I maybe wrong but for me a racist is a racist there is no middle ground, mind you do doubt you have figured that one out, in my defence I am just as passionate about homophobic behaviour as well,
Enough already! BC is a rugby league player, not a primary school teacher! There are lots and lots of SL players that have behaved in inappropriate/illegal and immoral ways, it just hasn't hit the news. I wonder what you would say if you knew what Gleeson had been up to at Wigan!
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| Quote: joburg "Enough already! BC is a rugby league player, not a primary school teacher! There are lots and lots of SL players that have behaved in inappropriate/illegal and immoral ways, it just hasn't hit the news. I wonder what you would say if you knew what Gleeson had been up to at Wigan!'"
There lies the problem, if we, like Wigan get rid of a player for their off field mis-doings, there's always some desperate, vultures out there, prepared to offer them a contract.
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| Played well in the derby. Ran strongly with the ball and made some very good tackles too.
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| Quote: Dudley "There lies the problem, if we, like Wigan get rid of a player for their off field mis-doings, there's always some desperate, vultures out there, prepared to offer them a contract.'"
True,especially if said player is top quality.
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